OT Way to go Spain; that'll teach 'em. . .

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote in message ...
John Cook wrote:


Ask yourself a couple of questions,
Why are we in Iraq?.

Because a reasonably-secular and democratic Iraq would

Which is now a pipe-dream.

quickly be followed by a democratic (rather than theocratic)
Iran -

Iran is democratic. US wouldnt give a damn weather Iran was democratic
or theocratic dictatorship as long as its government could be
persuaded to look after US interests. See KSA.

And the confrontationist attitude that US takes towards Iran hampers
political liberalisation, rather than encourage it.

and both have the resources to be an economic miracle
- like S. Korea - leading to stability and a more peaceful
Middle East.

Iran would have been an economic miracle if its democratic government
wasnt overthrown by vested external interests and a monarchy installed
in its place. It would have been nice to if a bloody dictator hadnt
been encouraged and helped to wage a decade long war against it.


Why don't the people in Iraq want us there?.

If that was was true, recent polls

Polls taken by occupiers under a military occupation are not very
credible.

wouldn't show that
the average Iraqi (70% or so) doesn't want us to abandon
them to the thugs and Jihadis

Which does not translate to that the 70% of the Iraqi people wanted
them there in the first place.

until they are capable of
dealing with these criminals on their own...