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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message om... Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was winning half the time. And losing the other half. Overunning Belgium was no great trick and Norway was no super power. They managed to beat France to be sure but the first time the vaunted Luftwaffe met a technically equal but smaller force it was stopped dead. By late 1940 Britain alone was outproducing Germany in terms of most major military systems despite a much smaller population and economy, In 1940, you ditched all your equipment on the beaches of Dunkirk and had little more than the Home Guard to protect you from invasion. Your armor was garbage just like your ships and the Kreigsmarine only needed around 300 U-boats to choke your little nation to death WITHOUT a need to invade. You brag about production while accepting massive handouts from the US that saved your sorry ass... pardon me for laughing my ass off! Then the Fuhrer attacked Russia - STOOPID ALL Germans would agree with you there... still they did launch the world's greatest land invasion in history and would have made it to Moscow had they not been bogged down in the earlier offensive in the Balkans bailing out the Italians. Then after defeat, your VICTORIOUS and SUPERIOR armies raped the entire German nation for all of its technology ensuring postwar victories without any real effort on your part to develop them yourself... in areas so unimportant as say... aviation and space technology... just to name two! The USA had better jet aircraft in 1945 than Germany did The late model Meteor was faster than the Me-262 and far more reliable. The Germans never did get their engines to work for more than 25 hours while the Rolls Royce engines in the Meteor were good for 2000 Huh, really? That's why the US engineers asked the GERMANS for advice on the future of jet engine development. The Germans told them axial-flow was the future even though the US/UK chose to toy around with centrifugal dead-end jet engines for years afterwards and even still continued producing PROP AIRCRAFT! The Germans in 1945 had the world's greatest engine the DB 109-016 @ 28,652 lb st and the world's first afterburning engine the Jumo 004E. Of course Germany lack the strategic materials necessary for higher quality coonstruction of jet engines but they also had synthetics developed under a time of round-the-clock bombing; nevertheless, THEY introduced two jet fighters, a jet bomber, a rocket figheter, and had two supersonic designs under construction- the Lp DM-1 demonstrator for the Lp P.13 and the DFS 346 (which flew Mach 1 in the USSR postwar). Germany never managed to build a succesful heavy bomber, the USA had 3 types in service and the B-36 under development That's Hitler's fault for cancelling any four-engined type. Germany could have built the Me-264, Ju 390, and a wide range of jet bomber projects that HEAVILY influenced postwar designs. If you think not then buy "Luftwaffe Secret Projects, Strategic Bombers 1939-1945". The NACA in the USA was alreay working on swept wing technology in 1945\ And everyone knows Germany's windtunnel data on the swept-wing (in all configurations) was far more valuable than anything the Allies had under development. I'm surprised how stupid you are to mention that at all. Von Braun acknowledged that all his work was built on the foundations laid by Goddard. .... and Oberth, who proposed rocket artillery as far back as WW1! The rocket engines used in the X planes post war were designed by Goddard's team and were far BETTER and more reliable than those in the Me-163 Yet the US stole the X-15 configuration/concept from the Peenemunde EMW A6 and the US NEVER fielded a rocket fighter, making the Me-163 Komet unique in air combat history. Then there is the fiasco that was the German nuclear project. Which is the entire basis for the US rush to develop it's own bomb. Germans got a bad deal with bad graphite- thank God for that. Yet the Germans also were smart enough to realize that nuclear power could be used for other purposes too: radiological weapons, a nuclear power reactor, and for use in submarines long before Nautilus was built. They also realized than an atom bomb coulb be mounted on a missile and launched from sea (Prufstand XII container). The myth of German technical superiority is just that. No, hundreds of thousands of captured technical documents stored at Wright Field in 1946 prove you wrong. The US Govt even was "low" enough to sell non-classified technical documents to other nations for cash- including the USSR! And if German technology is just a myth then why is 85% of America's arsenal derived from German weapons from WW1 and WW2? Why do we even use their tactics and wear their helmets? Rob Keith |
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