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Old September 24th 19, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 9:11:31 AM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
How much does crazing affect Polar?


On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:15:43 AM UTC-4, Tango Eight wrote:
Not at all (provided that the surface is being maintained).


What does 'the surface is being maintained' mean? Can you 'buff out' crazing to the point that it does not increase drag?

I'm surprised that crazing towards the leading edge does not affect laminar flow. How is crazing different than 'bug factor'?

Does crazing progress to a point where it affects drag? Is it still called crazing when that happens?
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Old September 24th 19, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:09:07 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 9:11:31 AM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
How much does crazing affect Polar?


On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:15:43 AM UTC-4, Tango Eight wrote:
Not at all (provided that the surface is being maintained).


What does 'the surface is being maintained' mean? Can you 'buff out' crazing to the point that it does not increase drag?

I'm surprised that crazing towards the leading edge does not affect laminar flow. How is crazing different than 'bug factor'?

Does crazing progress to a point where it affects drag? Is it still called crazing when that happens?


Proper maintenance means sanding (we're talking 800 grit and finer here, with a spline board or sanding bar for support) followed by polishing with either white rouge (aka "hard wax") or a very high end auto body polish (e.g. 3M Perfect It), followed by wax. That treatment renders any crazing a non-factor aerodynamically. As crazing progresses, you'll find that you need to repeat this treatment periodically. Your fingers will tell you when. If the finish feels smooth, aerodynamically, it is smooth.

If/when the finish starts shedding chunks of material, flaking or cracking up in a way that cannot be levelled with sanding and polishing, well, that's a different story, and patching or all out refinishing will be required to re-obtain full performance. Some readers will be familiar with a certain rather sketchy looking glider that had been patched (extensively) with spackle... and the hell of it is, that glider went pretty darned well!

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Old September 24th 19, 06:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The guy in the cockpit makes up for the craising on the wings.
A couple of wrong decisions by the guy flying the super true laminar perfect winged machine, and a few right decisions by the bondo wing flying guy and they'l be tied lol.
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Old September 24th 19, 07:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 1:35:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The guy in the cockpit makes up for the craising on the wings.
A couple of wrong decisions by the guy flying the super true laminar perfect winged machine, and a few right decisions by the bondo wing flying guy and they'l be tied lol.


True- BUT- All the points made by good glider preparation are points that don't have to be given back.
From a guy who had two 999 point days this year. One of those made the difference between silver and bronze in nationals.
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Old September 24th 19, 07:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Yes, agreed. I just finished working up an article regarding 5 principles necessary to win at low performance racing. The first principle is all about preparation.

But one of the other (and imop) more important factors is making the proper inflight decisions necessary to fly further or faster.

You know that the presence of a single point difference between 1st and 2nd place amounts to about a single false-thermal attempt, or maybe a few degrees of heading difference along an energy line. Its the "Moffat" principle revisited; namely "win by not loosing".
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Old September 25th 19, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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True- BUT- All the points made by good glider preparation are points that don't have to be given back.
From a guy who had two 999 point days this year. One of those made the difference between silver and bronze in nationals.
UH


Ironically, UH oversaw/assisted/provided the skilled work (vs. the grunt sanding work) on the glider that was the 1 point beneficiary of a complete refinish job.

No good deed goes unpunished.

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