Airports that have oxygen

Doug Levy wrote on 2/23/2021 10:38 AM:
Last year while motor gliding the western states I had trouble finding airports that can fill my oxygen bottle. I did get fills at Ely, Minden, and Inyokern. Do you know of places that can help out a visiting pilot?

Put a HUGE cylinder in your Phoenix! I use a CFFC-048 carbon fiber wrapped, 48 cf at 2200 psi,
19.5" x 6.8", and 6.4lb. I mounted it in the baggage compartment on the bulkhead about 2.5'
behind the pilot. From Mountain High.

You might be able to fill at Parowan (they have cart), and I think I saw an oxygen cart at
Richfield, UT. Rifle, CO, might have it, or you may be able to get a fill from Schmulik
Dimenstein, the local glider pilot that maintains his own cylinders in a hangar there.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
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On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Doug Levy wrote on 2/23/2021 10:38 AM:
Last year while motor gliding the western states I had trouble finding airports that can fill my oxygen bottle. I did get fills at Ely, Minden, and Inyokern. Do you know of places that can help out a visiting pilot?

Put a HUGE cylinder in your Phoenix! I use a CFFC-048 carbon fiber wrapped, 48 cf at 2200 psi,
19.5" x 6.8", and 6.4lb. I mounted it in the baggage compartment on the bulkhead about 2.5'
behind the pilot. From Mountain High.

You might be able to fill at Parowan (they have cart), and I think I saw an oxygen cart at
Richfield, UT. Rifle, CO, might have it, or you may be able to get a fill from Schmulik
Dimenstein, the local glider pilot that maintains his own cylinders in a hangar there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Doug Levy wrote on 2/23/2021 10:38 AM:
Last year while motor gliding the western states I had trouble finding airports that can fill my oxygen bottle. I did get fills at Ely, Minden, and Inyokern. Do you know of places that can help out a visiting pilot?

Put a HUGE cylinder in your Phoenix! I use a CFFC-048 carbon fiber wrapped, 48 cf at 2200 psi,
19.5" x 6.8", and 6.4lb. I mounted it in the baggage compartment on the bulkhead about 2.5'
behind the pilot. From Mountain High.

You might be able to fill at Parowan (they have cart), and I think I saw an oxygen cart at
Richfield, UT. Rifle, CO, might have it, or you may be able to get a fill from Schmulik
Dimenstein, the local glider pilot that maintains his own cylinders in a hangar there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1


Mountain Valley, Tehachapi, CA. $15.00/Fill

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:20:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Grubb wrote:
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Doug Levy wrote on 2/23/2021 10:38 AM:
Last year while motor gliding the western states I had trouble finding airports that can fill my oxygen bottle. I did get fills at Ely, Minden, and Inyokern. Do you know of places that can help out a visiting pilot?

Put a HUGE cylinder in your Phoenix! I use a CFFC-048 carbon fiber wrapped, 48 cf at 2200 psi,
19.5" x 6.8", and 6.4lb. I mounted it in the baggage compartment on the bulkhead about 2.5'
behind the pilot. From Mountain High.

You might be able to fill at Parowan (they have cart), and I think I saw an oxygen cart at
Richfield, UT. Rifle, CO, might have it, or you may be able to get a fill from Schmulik
Dimenstein, the local glider pilot that maintains his own cylinders in a hangar there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
Mountain Valley, Tehachapi, CA. $15.00/Fill\

if you are an AOPA member, you can try using the facility directory search function he https://www.aopa.org/destinations/

I typed in "Nevada, USA", checked the "public use" and "oxygen" boxes and when I hit search I got a map of Nevada showing airports listing oxygen services. I would call ahead to check.

Siskiyou County Airport, Craggy Aero.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 3:46:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:20:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Grubb wrote:
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Doug Levy wrote on 2/23/2021 10:38 AM:
Last year while motor gliding the western states I had trouble finding airports that can fill my oxygen bottle. I did get fills at Ely, Minden, and Inyokern. Do you know of places that can help out a visiting pilot?

Put a HUGE cylinder in your Phoenix! I use a CFFC-048 carbon fiber wrapped, 48 cf at 2200 psi,
19.5" x 6.8", and 6.4lb. I mounted it in the baggage compartment on the bulkhead about 2.5'
behind the pilot. From Mountain High.

You might be able to fill at Parowan (they have cart), and I think I saw an oxygen cart at
Richfield, UT. Rifle, CO, might have it, or you may be able to get a fill from Schmulik
Dimenstein, the local glider pilot that maintains his own cylinders in a hangar there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
Mountain Valley, Tehachapi, CA. $15.00/Fill\

if you are an AOPA member, you can try using the facility directory search function he https://www.aopa.org/destinations/

I typed in "Nevada, USA", checked the "public use" and "oxygen" boxes and when I hit search I got a map of Nevada showing airports listing oxygen services. I would call ahead to check.

How about a simple search for medical O2? Might be easier and cheaper...could be a medical supply house or similar...

I typed in "Nevada, USA", checked the "public use" and "oxygen" boxes and when I hit search I got a map of Nevada showing airports listing oxygen services. I would call ahead to check.
How about a simple search for medical O2? Might be easier and cheaper...could be a medical supply house or similar...

This is a vexing problem and we are working on a database of airports with confirmed oxygen service. Part of the problem too is that there is no one available at the FBO to fill if it’s a weekend and the people behind the counter really don’t know at most FBOs. Best to try an industrial gas supplier like Linde rather than medical. Most medical O2 houses require a prescription....

A two bottle cascade is a great option at the hangar too....

Scott

It has been my experience that Medical Oxygen requires a prescription.

Most Welding Gas supply businesses have ABO Aviators breathing Oxygen no prescription required and can fill a bottle.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Remember that there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between medical, welding and aviators oxygen. It is all produced by liquefaction and comes out of the same pipe. Once the use is defined, the price and availability changes by the liability incurred by the provider. Welding O2 is the cheapest, because of the fact that it is not "intended" for human consumption. "Aviators Breathing Oxygen" is often delivered at slightly higher pressure (2,200 psi vs. 1,800 or 2,000 psi) but costs more, as the "primary" cylinder must be emptied and purged by the supplier prior to refilling. A "Lot Number" must also be recorded for each primary cylinder refill. This does not apply to individual use cylinders like the ones we use in our gliders. Medical Oxygen costs the most (liability again), usually requires a Doctor's prescription and is rarely available for general non-medical use. Carrying a simple transfiller adapter can sometimes get you a refill at a welding shop, but the simplest method is to just carry a spare cylinder and transfiller so you can refill your glider cylinder. You should also have the specifications on your glider cylinder and delivery system, meaning you should know how long your supply will last at your maximum expected altitude and available pressure. For example, a 415 liter (14.7 cu ft) cylinder at 2216 psi will deliver 12.3 man/hours of oxygen at 15,000 ft MSL using a Mountain High EDS delivery system. The same system will provide approximately half the duration if it only has 1,100 psi. If you are using a standard straight cannula or face mask with constant flow, you only have 4.0 hours at 15,000 ft MSL. Know your equipment!

BTW, oxygen refills are available at Moriarty, NM through Sundance Aviation..

At the Cowley wave camps, there's the odd day when record attempts are made to 30,000+ It gets really cold up there as in -30C - actually surface temperature at night a week or so ago.

My welding supplier advises ABO for that kind of height and temperature, and I'm inclined to believe him. But the turnaround time for ABO cylinders is really slow here.

On a sunny day below 18,000, or in a heated cabin welding oxygen seems to be OK.