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Why not use the F-22 to replace the F/A-18 and F-14?



 
 
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Old February 22nd 04, 04:00 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"R. David Steele" wrote in message
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|The Tomcat is gone quicker than you can think....
|There is a big push by CNO to axe the F-14 sooner than planned, like
|now is too late...watch and see.
|
|The F/A-18 (I assume you mean the B/C/D models) already has a
|replacement, E/F. I don't think you are following current Naval
|Aviation very well.
|
|There is no need to replace the E/F Hornet, it will be pulling
|fighter/CAP/FAC/Bomber/tanker etc. duties for the next 10 years.
|Totally capable of performing all the above, with no current or future
|enemy threat that can match it.

Yes, I am aware that the E/F variants are the upgrade to the
current F/A-18 and the F-14. However by the time the FB-22 is
online, even those versions will be dated.


Less dated than the F-22.

You are not considering the F-22's two greatest flaws, the pre-96 Ada and
the Mil-spec components. The entire procurement of the F/A-18E is a
generation ahead of the F-22.

Remember that we are planning for a war with China by the end of
the decade. What is the ability of the Chinese aircraft.


Non-sequitur.


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Old February 22nd 04, 07:01 PM
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Remember that we are planning for a war with China by the end of
the decade. What is the ability of the Chinese aircraft. BRBR


Just let loose all the VQ and VP guys flying P-3s, they can kick their ass,
already have,,,
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer
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Old February 23rd 04, 02:54 AM
Mike Kanze
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Will these outfits be VQF / VPF? g

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"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Remember that we are planning for a war with China by the end of
the decade. What is the ability of the Chinese aircraft. BRBR


Just let loose all the VQ and VP guys flying P-3s, they can kick their

ass,
already have,,,
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye

Phlyer


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Old February 22nd 04, 09:17 PM
Ian
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"R. David Steele" wrote in message
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|The Tomcat is gone quicker than you can think....
|There is a big push by CNO to axe the F-14 sooner than planned, like
|now is too late...watch and see.
|
|The F/A-18 (I assume you mean the B/C/D models) already has a
|replacement, E/F. I don't think you are following current Naval
|Aviation very well.
|
|There is no need to replace the E/F Hornet, it will be pulling
|fighter/CAP/FAC/Bomber/tanker etc. duties for the next 10 years.
|Totally capable of performing all the above, with no current or future
|enemy threat that can match it.

Yes, I am aware that the E/F variants are the upgrade to the
current F/A-18 and the F-14. However by the time the FB-22 is
online, even those versions will be dated.


Less dated than the F-22.

You are not considering the F-22's two greatest flaws, the pre-96 Ada and
the Mil-spec components. The entire procurement of the F/A-18E is a
generation ahead of the F-22.


What language is F-22 software written in? I presume Ada-95?


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Old February 22nd 04, 09:50 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Ian" wrote in message
...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"R. David Steele" wrote in message
...

|The Tomcat is gone quicker than you can think....
|There is a big push by CNO to axe the F-14 sooner than planned, like
|now is too late...watch and see.
|
|The F/A-18 (I assume you mean the B/C/D models) already has a
|replacement, E/F. I don't think you are following current Naval
|Aviation very well.
|
|There is no need to replace the E/F Hornet, it will be pulling
|fighter/CAP/FAC/Bomber/tanker etc. duties for the next 10 years.
|Totally capable of performing all the above, with no current or

future
|enemy threat that can match it.

Yes, I am aware that the E/F variants are the upgrade to the
current F/A-18 and the F-14. However by the time the FB-22 is
online, even those versions will be dated.


Less dated than the F-22.

You are not considering the F-22's two greatest flaws, the pre-96 Ada

and
the Mil-spec components. The entire procurement of the F/A-18E is a
generation ahead of the F-22.


What language is F-22 software written in? I presume Ada-95?


The F-22 is older than that.

The F-35 has a chance of being more successful than the F-22 based solely on
it being post '96 Ada and having a late infusion of the RPL model. The
system itself has moved on since the parting and coding of the F-22.


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Old February 22nd 04, 10:26 PM
Ian
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Ian" wrote in message
...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"R. David Steele" wrote in message
...

|The Tomcat is gone quicker than you can think....
|There is a big push by CNO to axe the F-14 sooner than planned,

like
|now is too late...watch and see.
|
|The F/A-18 (I assume you mean the B/C/D models) already has a
|replacement, E/F. I don't think you are following current Naval
|Aviation very well.
|
|There is no need to replace the E/F Hornet, it will be pulling
|fighter/CAP/FAC/Bomber/tanker etc. duties for the next 10 years.
|Totally capable of performing all the above, with no current or

future
|enemy threat that can match it.

Yes, I am aware that the E/F variants are the upgrade to the
current F/A-18 and the F-14. However by the time the FB-22 is
online, even those versions will be dated.

Less dated than the F-22.

You are not considering the F-22's two greatest flaws, the pre-96 Ada

and
the Mil-spec components. The entire procurement of the F/A-18E is a
generation ahead of the F-22.


What language is F-22 software written in? I presume Ada-95?


The F-22 is older than that.

Thats interesting cos I'm sure I've read somewhere that Eurofighter is
written in Ada-95 and flight standard C?


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Old February 22nd 04, 11:14 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Ian" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Ian" wrote in message
...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"R. David Steele" wrote in message
...

|The Tomcat is gone quicker than you can think....
|There is a big push by CNO to axe the F-14 sooner than planned,

like
|now is too late...watch and see.
|
|The F/A-18 (I assume you mean the B/C/D models) already has a
|replacement, E/F. I don't think you are following current Naval
|Aviation very well.
|
|There is no need to replace the E/F Hornet, it will be pulling
|fighter/CAP/FAC/Bomber/tanker etc. duties for the next 10 years.
|Totally capable of performing all the above, with no current or

future
|enemy threat that can match it.

Yes, I am aware that the E/F variants are the upgrade to the
current F/A-18 and the F-14. However by the time the FB-22 is
online, even those versions will be dated.

Less dated than the F-22.

You are not considering the F-22's two greatest flaws, the pre-96

Ada
and
the Mil-spec components. The entire procurement of the F/A-18E is a
generation ahead of the F-22.

What language is F-22 software written in? I presume Ada-95?


The F-22 is older than that.

Thats interesting cos I'm sure I've read somewhere that Eurofighter is
written in Ada-95 and flight standard C?


After a series of discussions WRT Ada here at ram with Ada experts i was
willing to accept the idea that Ada was fixed by 1996. Perhaps I am using
an incorrect identifier and it is Ada-95


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Old February 22nd 04, 11:26 PM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

The F-35 has a chance of being more successful than the F-22 based solely on
it being post '96 Ada


Ada-95. Like a lot of the F-22 software, which got recoded because it
was easier to support. Which is why a good part of the F-35 software is
based on the F-22 software...

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Old February 22nd 04, 11:48 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

The F-35 has a chance of being more successful than the F-22 based

solely on
it being post '96 Ada


Ada-95. Like a lot of the F-22 software, which got recoded because it
was easier to support. Which is why a good part of the F-35 software is
based on the F-22 software...


Was to be, but tabbing to the F-22 would be foolish now.


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Old February 23rd 04, 07:23 AM
fudog50
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For cryin out loud!
Did everyone read the last 15 posts by Tarver, Chad and R.
David about software and programming? LOL, I'm sure it means a lot to
them but it gives perfect credence to my philosophy that all engineers
should be locked up in a rubber room at night! Too Funny!!
Hey guys! When you get that software and programming crap
worked out,,, let me know so I can go fly the jet ok??? Holy cow!




On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:48:02 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Chad Irby" wrote in message
m...
In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

The F-35 has a chance of being more successful than the F-22 based

solely on
it being post '96 Ada


Ada-95. Like a lot of the F-22 software, which got recoded because it
was easier to support. Which is why a good part of the F-35 software is
based on the F-22 software...


Was to be, but tabbing to the F-22 would be foolish now.


 




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