Lightspeed with Foggles question

On 19 Aug 2003 06:09:48 -0700, (Snowbird)
wrote:

How would that help? The blind spot created by the hood would
still be there. And frankly, the hoods I've tried allowed waaaaaay
too much cheating. Obviously I haven't tried them all, your favorite
may be perfect in this regard.

That's what mine a old scratched-up safety glasses with an
area of the lens taped over, then attacked w/ sandpaper and a dremel
tool.


Imagine the blind spots in the UK for I/R students since the only
artifical visual inhibitors allowed in the UK for I/R training are IF
Screens (louvered blinds over the pilot side windows)... LOTs of blind
spots generated by those.

For the IMC rating, foggles or hoods are acceptable, but for I/R it
must be screens so the student can't "cheat" by peeking out the corner
of his eye.

Leland

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:22:12 +0100, Leland Vandervort
wrote:

On 19 Aug 2003 06:09:48 -0700, (Snowbird)
wrote:

How would that help? The blind spot created by the hood would
still be there. And frankly, the hoods I've tried allowed waaaaaay
too much cheating. Obviously I haven't tried them all, your favorite
may be perfect in this regard.

That's what mine a old scratched-up safety glasses with an
area of the lens taped over, then attacked w/ sandpaper and a dremel
tool.


Imagine the blind spots in the UK for I/R students since the only
artifical visual inhibitors allowed in the UK for I/R training are IF
Screens (louvered blinds over the pilot side windows)... LOTs of blind
spots generated by those.

Man, but that sure sounds like an accident waiting for a place to
happen.


For the IMC rating, foggles or hoods are acceptable, but for I/R it
must be screens so the student can't "cheat" by peeking out the corner
of his eye.

Sure sounds like a bit of overzealous bureaucracy trading safety for
accuracy. You sure it didn't come from this side of the pond?

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)


Leland

On 18 Aug 2003 19:40:43 -0700, (Snowbird)
wrote:

Stan Gosnell wrote in message ...
My personal device is a flip-up type, which attaches to my glasses the way
flip-up clipon sunglasses do.

Yeah, I'm really tempted by these, but I prefer to wear contact lenses
when flying for better peripheral vision.

Our CFI doesn't like pilots he flies with to use hoods. Apparently
he had a near-miss involving the blind spot they create. Can't argue
with that.

I know of one pilot who has made foggles
from some wrap-around safety glasses

Foggles appear to be nothing more than the inexpensive clear plastic
safety glasses that have been sandblasted, or bead blasted on the
sides and areas where you want to block vision.

Based on that, the equivalent is quite easy to make, or even
duplicate.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

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Roger Halstead wrote in
:

Foggles appear to be nothing more than the inexpensive clear plastic
safety glasses that have been sandblasted, or bead blasted on the
sides and areas where you want to block vision.

Nope, one more modification - the price is jacked way up.

Based on that, the equivalent is quite easy to make, or even
duplicate.

For a fraction of the price. Anything targeted at aviation & pilots is
very expensive, because all those pilots have lots of money. ;-)

I never buy anything sold as being for aviation if I can help it. My
flight bag is a fishing tackle bag I bought on clearance at KMart. Just
about the only thing I own that's sold to pilots is the mike for my
headset. I recently had to replace the cord on my headset, & thought I was
getting ripped off by the electronics supply place for $20, but if you buy
one specifically designed for an aviation headset you'll pay close to $100
for a lower-quality equivalent.

--
Regards,

Stan

On 19 Aug 2003 19:32:12 GMT, Stan Gosnell
wrote:

Roger Halstead wrote in
:

Foggles appear to be nothing more than the inexpensive clear plastic
safety glasses that have been sandblasted, or bead blasted on the
sides and areas where you want to block vision.

Nope, one more modification - the price is jacked way up.

I notice that too...Actually a very important modification to the
safety glasses.


Based on that, the equivalent is quite easy to make, or even
duplicate.

For a fraction of the price. Anything targeted at aviation & pilots is
very expensive, because all those pilots have lots of money. ;-)

Not for long:-))


I never buy anything sold as being for aviation if I can help it. My
flight bag is a fishing tackle bag I bought on clearance at KMart. Just
about the only thing I own that's sold to pilots is the mike for my

I use my old briefcase I had at work...before I retired.

headset. I recently had to replace the cord on my headset, & thought I was
getting ripped off by the electronics supply place for $20, but if you buy
one specifically designed for an aviation headset you'll pay close to $100
for a lower-quality equivalent.

I'm not sure I paid that much for my first pair of headsets. Course
they were Sigtronics passive headsets and that was almost 15 years
ago.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

Roger Halstead wrote in message . ..

Foggles appear to be nothing more than the inexpensive clear plastic
safety glasses that have been sandblasted, or bead blasted on the
sides and areas where you want to block vision.

Concur. As I said in a previous post, that's exactly what mine
are (well, I sanded and used a dremel tool, I didn't bead blast
them).

Cheers,
Sydney