FAA KEEPS GRAPHICAL TFR PROMISE

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:03:57 -0800, "karl gruber"
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No. They didn't.

The Bremerton TFR is STILL mapped incorrectly. It seems inconcievable that
the FAA map makers can't select a point from LAT/LON and draw a circle
around it. Last time they had it 1/2 mile NW. Now it's about 1/4 mile W.

At least they are getting closer.

Send e-mail to: http://www.broaddaylight.com/

Tell them which link your error report references, and the changes you
feel should be made to correct the issue.

That's what I did.

still no graphics

You have to click on the name of the TFR to see the graphic - not obvious since
the webmaster pulled a trick to make the names not show up as default links.

Jose

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*****Send e-mail to: http://www.broaddaylight.com/******

That is not an email address and it links to some strange web site.


Karl
"Curator" N185KG

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:36:00 -0800, "karl gruber"
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*****Send e-mail to: http://www.broaddaylight.com/******

That is not an email address and it links to some strange web site.

You're right; that's not an e-mail address.

In fact, if you look at the Contact Us web page
http://www2.faa.gov/utilities/contactus.cfm, you'll see a link under
"E-mail" labeled: "Comments or Questions about the FAA web site."
Clicking that link takes you to the Frequently Asked Questions page,
which does not contain any e-mail addresses.

I find the lack of an e-mail address to which corrections to the FAA
TFR web site can be submitted, to border on subterfuge. Here is a
company, Broad Daylight, who are in the business of providing
web-based solutions, that fails to provide an e-mail address to
contact them about anomalies that appear in their work. Absurd and
arrogant IMO.

It would seem that the FAA has contracted with Broad Daylight, an
e-service software developer specializing in solutions for customer
and employee self-service, to produce/manage the TFR web site.
Further sleuthing reveals that Broad Daylight has been acquired by
Primus, who provide software solutions for assisted service and
Web-based self-service. Primus provides this e-mail address
for Web Inquires.

Unfortunately, I'm not where I can see to whom I addressed my e-mail
message, but likely a note addressed to would
reach the appropriate person.

Incidently, I have found that clicking the graphic under the "Zoom"
column on the http://tfr.faa.gov/TFR/jsp/list.jsp page produces a
map that displays a zoomed-out view of the locations of the TFRs in
any particular region.
http://tfr.faa.gov/TFR/jsp/tfrmap.jsp?action=layers&ims_service=tfr_conus&min x=-2260697.32978264&maxx=-1532616.39378124&miny=-669226.709384332&maxy=-155287.22514805&llatlong=on&lsua=on&lcity=on&lmsa= on&lroad=on&lap=on&lcenters=on
Checking all the "Map Layer" boxes, and updating the map reveals not
only the location of the TFRs, but all the SUA too. There sure is a
lot of it. But, the "Zoom In/Out" and "Get Info" buttons don't seem
to do anything yet.

The FAAs TFR web site still needs work. Perhaps the web master will
put his e-mail address on the site when it is further developed. As
it is, the lack of an e-mail address under the "E-mail" heading
appears more than just a little duplicitous.

all parts of the web appear to be working correctly for me.. 2109 Local
Pacific time

poor renditions of the graphics can be made larger by clicking on the
graphic..

who gets a 3nm radius 3000ft AGL VIP TFR at Pierre SD this week. FDC notam
3/0633 1130 local on the third until 1420 local on the 6th...


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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From AvWeb:

FAA KEEPS GRAPHICAL TFR PROMISE
A year after promising them, FAA Administrator Marion Blakey will
announce that real-time graphical depictions of current TFRs will be
available on the FAA Web site starting today.
http://tfr.faa.gov/TFR/jsp/list.jsp

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:15:13 -0800, "BTIZ"
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poor renditions of the graphics can be made larger by clicking on the
graphic..

The graphics seem to get bigger, which helps, but not really better
quality resolution; they're fuzzy and indistinct in my opinion. But
if they accurately depict the TFR in relation to the topography, it
will save plotting them out manually from the NOTAM description.

Of course its fuzzy...You didn't expect a clear answer from the FAA, did
you?

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Kevin McCue
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The web page definitely looks more snazzier than the DUATS webpage,
but content-wise DUATS wins 1.75 hands down. Zoom in, out, scroll...
see other restrictions nearby and there is also a nice table layout
(with altitude!) at the bottom. True you can dig through the FAA site
and find similar features, but not all on one web page. Score one more
for the private sector.

-lance smith



Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
From AvWeb:

FAA KEEPS GRAPHICAL TFR PROMISE
A year after promising them, FAA Administrator Marion Blakey will
announce that real-time graphical depictions of current TFRs will be
available on the FAA Web site starting today.
http://tfr.faa.gov/TFR/jsp/list.jsp

On 7 Nov 2003 09:10:41 -0800, (lance smith)
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content-wise DUATS wins 1.75 hands down

Have you got a link to the DUATS page you mention?

Hi Larry,

You can find it at www.duats.com. It's free for all pilots
(registration required) and once you login G-TFR's will be second item
on the page.

-lance smith


Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
On 7 Nov 2003 09:10:41 -0800, (lance smith)
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content-wise DUATS wins 1.75 hands down

Have you got a link to the DUATS page you mention?