can I get paid?

You obviously cannot
get paid for flying.


Is that really true? So long as the fllying is "incidental" to the business, I
beleve you can get "paid for flying" - i.e. you can be on salary during the
trip.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message ...

You obviously cannot
get paid for flying.


Is that really true? So long as the fllying is "incidental" to the business, I
beleve you can get "paid for flying" - i.e. you can be on salary during the
trip.

You'd get the salary anyhow. You're not being expressly paid for the flying
duty.

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:FQBrb.155284$HS4.1275807@attbi_s01...
Wrong subject line...you mean "Can I get reimbursed?" You obviously cannot
get paid for flying.

Don't you think you're splitting hairs a little finely there? "Paid" does
not necessarily mean you have been hired. It simply means you've received
money. A reimbursement is just as much a payment as a paycheck is.

The thing I really don't get is that I'd have thought that you'd know the
answer to his question, but for some reason you didn't take the time to
comment on *that*. That would have been a more helpful reply than what you
offered, I think.

Frederick: BTIZ's reply pretty much sums it up (his first one, that is ).
Since the flight is incidental to your business, you may be reimbursed
according to the FARs. You could even carry your coworkers, if they wanted
to come along. However, as he says, your employer may not think it's such a
great idea anyway. Corporate lawyers are notoriously jumpy about small
aircraft being used in the furtherance of company business.

Pete

I think that you and teacherjh are the ones who are splitting hairs. It is
obvious that he will collect his paycheck for his employment...he wanted to
know what method was appropriate so that he could recover his costs.

Bob Gardner

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:FQBrb.155284$HS4.1275807@attbi_s01...
Wrong subject line...you mean "Can I get reimbursed?" You obviously
cannot
get paid for flying.

Don't you think you're splitting hairs a little finely there? "Paid" does
not necessarily mean you have been hired. It simply means you've received
money. A reimbursement is just as much a payment as a paycheck is.

The thing I really don't get is that I'd have thought that you'd know the
answer to his question, but for some reason you didn't take the time to
comment on *that*. That would have been a more helpful reply than what
you
offered, I think.

Frederick: BTIZ's reply pretty much sums it up (his first one, that is
).
Since the flight is incidental to your business, you may be reimbursed
according to the FARs. You could even carry your coworkers, if they
wanted
to come along. However, as he says, your employer may not think it's such
a
great idea anyway. Corporate lawyers are notoriously jumpy about small
aircraft being used in the furtherance of company business.

Pete

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:inCrb.115345$275.332456@attbi_s53...
I think that you and teacherjh are the ones who are splitting hairs. It is
obvious that he will collect his paycheck for his employment

And he's permitted to. It's the reimbursement for the cost of the airplane
he was asking about, which is not his paycheck. He can get paid, AND he can
get paid (except, of course, by your overly strict definition of "paid").

I'm going to put this in the dictionary next to "circular argument." He is
"permitted to" collect his salary? Give me a break, Peter. His original
question and my original answer had nothing to do with his collecting his
regular paycheck, whether he flew a private airplane or stayed home slaving
over a hot desk. The thrust of his original post was how he should be
reimbursed by his employer for travel costs...nothing more. I still think
that the original subject line could have been better worded in order to
elicit the information he required.

Bob Gardner

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:inCrb.115345$275.332456@attbi_s53...
I think that you and teacherjh are the ones who are splitting hairs. It
is
obvious that he will collect his paycheck for his employment

And he's permitted to. It's the reimbursement for the cost of the
airplane
he was asking about, which is not his paycheck. He can get paid, AND he
can
get paid (except, of course, by your overly strict definition of "paid").

You may be reimbursed by your company for the cost of your travel if flying
is incidental to the reason for the trip (meaning that the reason for the
trip could be accomplished if you drove or took a commercial airliner). You
may not volunteer to take people if you were not going anyway. This
reimbursement may take the form of a standard mileage rate or by computing
direct costs. You may not be reimbursed for your time when you are piloting
the airplane.

People will tell you that corporate attorneys, insurance, etc. will not
generally allow it. Actually, I know several people that fly their own
airplanes on company business. It is easier, of course, if you own the
company, but most of the people that I know are like sales people or
engineers for large corporations.

You may not be reimbursed for your time when you are piloting
the airplane.


Where does it say this (if it's incidental to your business)? I believe you
can draw salary.

And I wasn't necessarily addressing the orignal question only, but also the
follow-up questions that often cloud the issue.

Jose

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Google on "private aircraft + reimbursement" and you will get all sorts of
useful information.

Bob Gardner

"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
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Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the
answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist. There
are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a King
Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to get
a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I recover
the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson

"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message news:hcBrb.156752$Tr4.421184@attbi_s03...

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?


You can get reimbursed for your expenses as long as the flight is
incidental to your work and you're not carrying passengers or property for hire.

This sounds like it is the case for you.