Criminal Prosecution for TFR Bust?

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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Larry Dighera wrote:

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Maybe it's time to get criminal prosecutions against some officials in
the SS.

I'm afraid it's too late. The power is no longer with the people in this
country.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:55:11 GMT, "Peter Gottlieb"
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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Maybe it's time to get criminal prosecutions against some officials in
the SS.

I'm afraid it's too late. The power is no longer with the people in this
country.


To which "power" are you referring? If it's the judicial power of
government, there's little doubt that, given the gutting of
Constitutional assurances by the Patriot Act, you are correct.

If the power to which you refer is the peoples' "might to do right,"
the numbers look like they could be 260 million to perhaps well under
one million. I'd say odds of 260:1 are significantly in the favor of
the people to see that justice returns to its government.

It's but a matter of public education and will. When the
extra-constitutional powers granted government by the Patriot Act
begin to be used against the people of the nation, and the lives of
its people are directly impacted, there will be potential for the
people to reverse the travesties contained in the Patriot Act, and
submit its agencies to redress.

I believe we'll have to give the government a little more time to hone
its hobnail boots and iron fists to allow the pendulum of tyranny to
swing yet farther to the right before it can be clearly discerned and
addressed by the man-in-the-street.

If the government continues on its course of citizen oppression, it
will soon learn that such a policy will be its undoing.

Larry Dighera wrote:

If the government continues on its course of citizen oppression, it
will soon learn that such a policy will be its undoing.

A true optimist. Hope you're right.

George Patterson
They say nothing's certain except death and taxes. The thing is, death
doesn't get worse every time Congress goes into session.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:08:41 -0500, "G.R. Patterson III"
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Larry Dighera wrote:

If the government continues on its course of citizen oppression, it
will soon learn that such a policy will be its undoing.

A true optimist.

That's far better than some of the other things I've been called. :-)

Hope you're right.

Time will tell.

The founding fathers had faith in the will of the people; I hope we
haven't changed too much since 1776.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:55:11 GMT, "Peter Gottlieb"
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message

news
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Maybe it's time to get criminal prosecutions against some officials in
the SS.

I'm afraid it's too late. The power is no longer with the people in this
country.


To which "power" are you referring? If it's the judicial power of
government, there's little doubt that, given the gutting of
Constitutional assurances by the Patriot Act, you are correct.

If the power to which you refer is the peoples' "might to do right,"
the numbers look like they could be 260 million to perhaps well under
one million. I'd say odds of 260:1 are significantly in the favor of
the people to see that justice returns to its government.

It's but a matter of public education and will. When the
extra-constitutional powers granted government by the Patriot Act
begin to be used against the people of the nation, and the lives of
its people are directly impacted, there will be potential for the
people to reverse the travesties contained in the Patriot Act, and
submit its agencies to redress.

I believe we'll have to give the government a little more time to hone
its hobnail boots and iron fists to allow the pendulum of tyranny to
swing yet farther to the right before it can be clearly discerned and
addressed by the man-in-the-street.

If the government continues on its course of citizen oppression, it
will soon learn that such a policy will be its undoing.


I suppose you mean just like the Germans public rose up against the Nazi
tyranny in the 1930s.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:04:06 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

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the Secret Service initially wanted
criminal charges laid against wayward pilots.

Maybe it's time to get criminal prosecutions against some officials in
the SS.

I like the way you think. With what would we charge them?

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:04:06 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
wrote in Message-Id:
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

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the Secret Service initially wanted
criminal charges laid against wayward pilots.

Maybe it's time to get criminal prosecutions against some officials in
the SS.

I like the way you think. With what would we charge them?



How about treason, for starters? That should get their attention.

Then, we could reduce the charges to "abuse of the colors of authority."

What we really need is names, so we can start a movement to get them
reassigend (to Antarctica, to assure that the penguins aren't plotting
terrorist threats). Those bureaucrats are like cockroaches -- they try
to do their business in the dark and cannot stand anyone shining a light
on them.

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message |

| How about treason, for starters? That should get their attention.
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| Then, we could reduce the charges to "abuse of the colors of authority."
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Treason would be an excellent start, and I would not reduce the charges.
However, I would also add 'dereliction of duty.'

All part of the George Bush Airport Police State, using the SS to do
it, in this case. 1000 arrested in the USA after 9/11, most held and
never charged, 600 interned in Guantanamo Bay (15 fewer than a month
ago (gee I wonder where those 15 went? slit?)). Hey, I want America
safe, but I also want it FREE. Bush, Cheney and Ashcroft, no American
Freedom safe from their police powers. Sorry to be political, if the
Dems were doing it I'd be hollering just as loud. Wake up America!

Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
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TFRS: WHO ARE THEY REALLY STOPPING?
The FAA is looking at revising its enforcement policy for pilots
who bust TFRs and the Washington ADIZ. Agency officials told a
recent meeting of the GA Coalition that federal security agencies
are not in favor of a flexible system of enforcement that takes
mitigating factors into consideration. In fact, according to EAA's
account of the meeting, the Secret Service initially wanted
criminal charges laid against wayward pilots. Coalition Chairman
Tom Poberezny urged the FAA to adopt a uniform policy that allows
remedial action, counseling and even amnesty for pilots who
mistakenly enter restricted airspace. The meeting attendees were
told that almost 2,800 violations have been recorded so far, about
half of them in the Washington ADIZ and Camp David TFRs.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186022

Doug wrote:

All part of the George Bush Airport Police State, using the SS to do
it, in this case. 1000 arrested in the USA after 9/11, most held and

Hey Doug: aren't you the moron who was trying to solve a rigging problem with
his AUTOPILOT engaged?

(A HUSKY, right?)