TSA panics over baptism device

"Dave" wrote in message
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| "Dave S" wrote in message
| ink.net...
| This, unfortunately, doesnt sound like an over-reaction.
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| The passenger broke the golden rule, having something given to him which
he
| did not know what it was.
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| To get as far as the security screeners he must have lied at check -in.
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| In the UK the first question are you carrying anything given to you by
| someone else.
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First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to security
screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.

A pipe bomb would have set off the nitrate sniffers. There are plenty of
objects that might look like pipe bombs otherwise, including panty hose
containers, vials of oil used for religious purposes, the baptism devices
involved here, etc.

Frankly, I think it is a waste of time and resources to devote so much time
and attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Roman Catholic. Who
knows what real terrorists might have gotten past security during the
distraction and confusion?

Armies in war generally find it more effective to concentrate their efforts
on the known enemy. Shooting at everybody indiscriminately just creates more
enemies. You Brits of all people should know that. If incidents like this
continue there will eventually be a severe political, if not violent,
backlash against transportation security. It is possible that people will
stop traveling on airlines entirely.

First of all, this occurred in the United States. Secondly, no one asks
those questions in the United States. The passenger did not lie to security
screeners. You may climb down off your high horse now.

Better double check on that. I have been asked exactly that question by the
ticket agent at check in every time I have flown for the last several years.
Even before 9/11. This has been standard procedure in the US for a long time.

Frankly, I think it is a waste of time and resources to devote so much time
and attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Roman Catholic.


But we should pay attention to an innocent device carried by a devout Muslim?
Roman Catholics don't have a good record in the violence department.

Jose


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I was a baggage searcher back in January, 1973, when the U.S.A. first
started searching baggage at MIA. At that time we were searching for
weapons to avert hi-jackings. It was incredible the stuff people were
trying to carry on and they weren't trying to hijack a plane. In the couple
of months I was there, we found 12 inch knives, all kinds of guns mostly
from women, gallons of flammable liquids, tear gas, cans of spray paint,
and a lot of stuff I can't remember. I don't mind the searches. Even
without terrorists, there is a significant threat from nuts and little old
ladies with handguns.

Jim

I was a baggage searcher back in January, 1973, when the U.S.A. first
started searching baggage at MIA. At that time we were searching for
weapons to avert hi-jackings. It was incredible the stuff people were
trying to carry on and they weren't trying to hijack a plane. In the couple
of months I was there, we found 12 inch knives, all kinds of guns mostly
from women, gallons of flammable liquids, tear gas, cans of spray paint,
and a lot of stuff I can't remember.


You think it's possible that these things might have been carried for innocent
reasons? Not everyone with spray paint and knives is out to hijack a plane.
That was your observation too.

Jose

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Believe it or not, there are all kinds of reasons to carry guns and knives
in your baggage. Knives don't even have to be declared at the check-in
counter. Frankly, if you have been taking this stuff, you should be
prosecuted for theft.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Believe it or not, there are all kinds of reasons to carry guns and knives
in your baggage. Knives don't even have to be declared at the check-in
counter. Frankly, if you have been taking this stuff, you should be
prosecuted for theft.

Good reason to ask the questions at check -in. If someone forgot he had them
then he could remove them before the TSa removed them and give him a
criminal record.
If he lies at checkin then the TSAshould through the book at him.
another worthy of extinction

Jim Divoky wrote:

Even
without terrorists, there is a significant threat from nuts and little old
ladies with handguns.

Well, the fact that you were finding all this stuff and didn't have a clue that
it was there is pretty solid evidence that there's no threat associated with
letting people carry it on board.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...


Jim Divoky wrote:

Even
without terrorists, there is a significant threat from nuts and little old
ladies with handguns.

One of the local cops here has a sign in her office that says:
Yes, I have PMS and I have a gun. Any questions?