Question: "Overhead Entry to Downwind?"

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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You are allowed to enter the traffic pattern any way you like.


Well, not just any way, there is a restriction on the direction of turns.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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| "C J Campbell" wrote in message
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| You are allowed to enter the traffic pattern any way you like.
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| Well, not just any way, there is a restriction on the direction of turns.

True, but compliance and enforcement vary considerably from place to place.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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True, but compliance and enforcement vary considerably from place to
place.


In other words, you're free to violate any regulation that's not enforced.

In other words, you're free to violate any regulation that's not enforced.

And then you explain that it's "pilot's discretion"

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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You are allowed to enter the traffic pattern any way you like.


Well, not just any way, there is a restriction on the direction of turns.

Please explain to me how it is possible to "enter on a 45 to the downwind"
AND "make all turns to the left in the traffic pattern" (that is paraphrased
from memory). In fact, if one were to only make left turns in the traffic
pattern, an overhead approach would be one of the ONLY ways to enter the
pattern. Of course, one very few people are looking for. :-)

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Mike

Mike O'Malley wrote:


Please explain to me how it is possible to "enter on a 45 to the downwind"
AND "make all turns to the left in the traffic pattern" (that is paraphrased
from memory). In fact, if one were to only make left turns in the traffic
pattern, an overhead approach would be one of the ONLY ways to enter the
pattern. Of course, one very few people are looking for. :-)



Am I misreading something, or do the Canadians frown on the "45 to
downwind" approach at uncontrolled airports, (unless traffic advisory is
available)???

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/an...new197.htm#MF2

quote:
Basically, when airport and traffic advisory information is not
available, regardless of whether MF procedures are in effect or not,
aircraft should not join 45% to the downwind leg, straight-in to the
base or final leg of the circuit. The correct entry procedure to be
used, therefore, depends on whether airport and traffic advisory is
available or not."

Mike O'Malley wrote:

Please explain to me how it is possible to "enter on a 45 to the downwind"
AND "make all turns to the left in the traffic pattern" (that is paraphrased
from memory).

The 45 entry to downwind is not "in the pattern". It is the entry to the pattern
and does nopt have to be a left turn.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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The 45 entry to downwind is not "in the pattern". It is the entry to the
pattern
and does nopt have to be a left turn.


The regulation does not require turns "in the pattern" to be to the left, it
requires the pilot of an airplane approaching to land at an airport without
an operating control tower to make all turns to the left. The 45 degree
entry to downwind violates the regulation.

The 45 degree
entry to downwind violates the regulation.

Shall we arrest the FAA, then?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Shall we arrest the FAA, then?


From a pilot's viewpoint, I do not see a downside to that.