TSA (Totally Stupid Agency) fails again

Actually, I think I like that article A LOT...

BALPA 1 TSA 0

Gotta love it.


"Obviously there will be a lot of questions asked in America as to how he
got on the plane undetected."

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"Screening of passengers at Washington Dulles airport is the responsibility
of the Transportation Security Administration."

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Hahahah!

(Jeb) wrote in
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Judah wrote in message . ..
Actually, I think I like that article A LOT...

BALPA 1 TSA 0

Gotta love it.
....
Hahahah!

Wow, that's quite a lot of joy about a potentially deadly situation.
It reminds me of footage of people dancing in the streets a while
back...

So, are you advocating airport security breaches, or just a fan?

(Brien K. Meehan) wrote in
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Judah wrote in message
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Actually, I think I like that article A LOT...

BALPA 1 TSA 0

Gotta love it.
...
Hahahah!

Wow, that's quite a lot of joy about a potentially deadly situation.
It reminds me of footage of people dancing in the streets a while
back...

I don't understand your comparison.

First, no one died. Instead, a man was able to carry ammunition through a
TSA controlled security gate at DULLES (not some midwestern jetport, but
the airport at our Nation's Capitol!) When he arrived at Heathrow (not
generally known for it's security, and not having the "benefit" of being
controlled by the TSA) the ammunition was found and he was arrested.

So while the US walks around jumping up and down cancelling flights
because of misinformation and X-Raying the shoes of children and old
ladies, the TRUTH is that the TSA is ineffective, and the majority of the
security process at airports is a farce.

So why do I find this amusing? Well, first of all, because many of us
knew this a long time ago. The reason that another jetliner has not been
crashed into another national monument has very little to do with the
fact that I show my driver's license to the gate agent when I get on the
plane, or any of the other security bull**** that goes on now.

It is also pleasing because some of us still have a glimmer of a hope
that this country will wake up and stop abdicating civil rights in the
name of protection from "potentially deadly situations."

True, every flight is a potential deadly situation. So is every car ride,
and so is every time you cross the street. Many people die in their
sleep, so it would seem that sleeping represents a potential deadly
situation. How far does it go?

Life is a risk. There is no such thing as security. The only thing that
you can guarantee in life is death. You can choose how to live your life
- cowering in fear from every possible threat, or enjoying it like every
day is your last. I prefer something in between. But I also prefer to be
allowed to make that choice. When the government imposes upon the
people's civil rights in the name of "protecting us from potentially
deadly situations," it is disturbing to me.

It should be disturbing to you too.

But the bottom line is this: my joy comes because an innocent American
man who did not hurt anyone nor had any intention to hurt anyone was free
to get on an airplane and fly to London without being harassed or
arrested. It saddens me that our European neighbors did not allow him to
excercise those same American freedoms in their country.


So, are you advocating airport security breaches, or just a fan?

So, do you think that terrorists could never figure out a way around the
TSA, or that TSA workers will never make a mistake, or are you just
gullible or delusional?

Judah wrote in message . ..
I don't understand your comparison.

The rest of your post implies that you do. Regardless, it just
reminded me of a group.

So while the US walks around jumping up and down cancelling flights
because of misinformation and X-Raying the shoes of children and old
ladies, the TRUTH is that the TSA is ineffective, and the majority of the
security process at airports is a farce.

That's an interesting speculation. One could just as easily speculate
that the cancellations were based on accurate information, random
screening is effective, and the TSA has prevented thousands of
terrorist acts.

Some groups of people speculate this way, and some groups speculate
that way.

It is also pleasing because some of us still have a glimmer of a hope
that this country will wake up and stop abdicating civil rights in the
name of protection from "potentially deadly situations."

Hmm, this reminds me of footage I saw of a group of people encouraging
this country to "think" and "wake up."

The only thing that you can guarantee in life is death.

Is this a threat?

When the government imposes upon the
people's civil rights in the name of "protecting us from potentially
deadly situations," it is disturbing to me.

So change it.

It should be disturbing to you too.

I'll decide what's disturbing to me, thank you.

I find other behavior much more disturbing.

But the bottom line is this: my joy comes because an innocent American
man who did not hurt anyone nor had any intention to hurt anyone was free
to get on an airplane and fly to London without being harassed or
arrested.

That's an interesting speculation. One could just as easily speculate
that this passenger was performing reconaissance for his terrorist
cell, trying to determine the amount of ammuniton he could
successfully smuggle aboard an aircraft.

Some groups of people speculate this way, and some groups speculate
that way.

So, do you think that terrorists could never figure out a way around the
TSA, or that TSA workers will never make a mistake, or are you just
gullible or delusional?

If I were either one, I wouldn't realize it.

There are lots of people in the world, taught to blindly hate and
destroy, believing that they're actually doing good, "fighting" for
what's "right." I don't think these people realize that they're
gullible or deluded, but I don't think I'm in that group.

(Brien K. Meehan) wrote in
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Judah wrote in message
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So while the US walks around jumping up and down cancelling flights
because of misinformation and X-Raying the shoes of children and old
ladies, the TRUTH is that the TSA is ineffective, and the majority of
the security process at airports is a farce.

That's an interesting speculation. One could just as easily speculate
that the cancellations were based on accurate information, random
screening is effective, and the TSA has prevented thousands of
terrorist acts.

So you mean to imply that if the TSA cancelled a flight with a terrorist
aboard, it would put such a dent in the terrorists plans and capabilities
that he would not try it again? Wow! I didn't realize just how demoralized
these terrorists are!

Some groups of people speculate this way, and some groups speculate
that way.

What group are you with?

It is also pleasing because some of us still have a glimmer of a hope
that this country will wake up and stop abdicating civil rights in the
name of protection from "potentially deadly situations."

Hmm, this reminds me of footage I saw of a group of people encouraging
this country to "think" and "wake up."

Huh?

The only thing that you can guarantee in life is death.

Is this a threat?

What?!?!? It is a simple fact. Regardless of your preference, humans do not
currently live forever. I wonder what made you interpret this simple fact
as a threat, though. I suspect you are so terrorized by the media that even
the mention of the word death scares you into feeling personally
threatened. I feel very sorry for you.

When the government imposes upon the
people's civil rights in the name of "protecting us from potentially
deadly situations," it is disturbing to me.

So change it.

I'm trying. But there are still many people like yourself who feel so
vulnerable and threatened by the media hype and scare tactics, that they
believe civil rights are not the issue. They would rather cower in a corner
and let the government "protect" them from some amorphous enemy. They are
totally terrorized. Not by the actions of some Arabic underground or some
midwestern-based American Militia group. They are terrorized by the fact
that every day they see reports on TV telling them about every possible
point of vulnerability that exists in their own neighborhood. They don't
remember that there are more people struck by lightning each year in the US
than are killed by terrorist attacks. And that they still also have a
better chance at being hit by a drunk driver as they walk on the sidewalk
than either of those. They would give up anything to protect themselves
from a chance of death, but won't do anything to protect their freedom, to
protect their life.

But the bottom line is this: my joy comes because an innocent American
man who did not hurt anyone nor had any intention to hurt anyone was
free to get on an airplane and fly to London without being harassed or
arrested.

That's an interesting speculation. One could just as easily speculate
that this passenger was performing reconaissance for his terrorist
cell, trying to determine the amount of ammuniton he could
successfully smuggle aboard an aircraft.

Perhaps 300 terrorist passengers will board a 747, each carrying a single
bullet. During the flight, they will empty all of the powder from the 300
bullets into a coke can, seal it, and blow the whole plane up in the
biggest suicide bombing of the century! Get real!

Do you know when the idea of hijacking a plane and flying it into New York
was first 'published'? On April 27, 1999, it was presented by the media as
the plan of two kids from Columbine High School.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V119/N22/littleton.22w.html
http://www.jsonline.com/news/apr99/0427plot.asp

So let the media keep feeding ideas to your terrorists...

Some groups of people speculate this way, and some groups speculate
that way.

What is the name of your group again?

So, do you think that terrorists could never figure out a way around
the TSA, or that TSA workers will never make a mistake, or are you
just gullible or delusional?

If I were either one, I wouldn't realize it.

There are lots of people in the world, taught to blindly hate and
destroy, believing that they're actually doing good, "fighting" for
what's "right." I don't think these people realize that they're
gullible or deluded, but I don't think I'm in that group.

The gullible and deluded ones think that the terrorists are somewhere in
the Middle East planning to bomb their local little-town bank, civic
center, or power plant for the sake of their political freedom. They don't
realize that today's terrorists have a very specific goal of increasing
their position of money and power. They live and work right here in the US,
in places like Rockefeller Center and Pennsylvania Avenue.

(Brien K. Meehan) wrote in message om...


Wow, that's quite a lot of joy about a potentially deadly situation.

I am just wondering what the potentially deadly situation was? Were
the bullets going to jump out and attack someone? Maybe he was going
to put them in his shoe and set it on fire?

So, are you advocating airport security breaches, or just a fan?

I'm a fan, thanks for asking. Are you someone that thinks we are
safer flying now that the TSA is in charge, or just a fan of the pat
down? Sorry some of us noticed that the same minimum wage slaves are
manning the checkpoints doing the same half-assed job. I am a fan of
anything that points out how wasted these efforts are, not to mention
how much (of our) money the feds are wasting. Luckily the Gestapo has
people like you to spout their party line because most intelligent
people have stopped believing it when it comes from their mouth.

(Darren Johnson) wrote in message . com...
I am just wondering what the potentially deadly situation was? Were
the bullets going to jump out and attack someone? Maybe he was going
to put them in his shoe and set it on fire?

Interesting speculations. Have these things been known to happen? Do
you believe these events are likely?

Maybe he was going to put them in a gun and fire it at someone. This
has been known to happen with bullets, but I'm also speculating.

I'm a fan, thanks for asking.

Thank you.

Do you condone criminal behavior in general, or just that which could
be related to terrorism? If the latter, do you advocate terrorism in
general, or terrorism targeted towards people in the United States?

Luckily the Gestapo has
people like you to spout their party line because most intelligent
people have stopped believing it when it comes from their mouth.

Hmm. I haven't spouted any party line, but you just did, literatum.

(Brien K. Meehan) wrote in message . com...
(Darren Johnson) wrote in message . com...
I am just wondering what the potentially deadly situation was? Were
the bullets going to jump out and attack someone? Maybe he was going
to put them in his shoe and set it on fire?

Interesting speculations. Have these things been known to happen? Do
you believe these events are likely?

About as likely as you answering a question in a clear manor.

Maybe he was going to put them in a gun and fire it at someone. This
has been known to happen with bullets, but I'm also speculating.

Well since you seem to have ignored the question I'll try using
smaller words for you, what was the "potentially deadly situation"?
That he might shoot someone in the future?

I'm a fan, thanks for asking.

Thank you.

Do you condone criminal behavior in general, or just that which could
be related to terrorism? If the latter, do you advocate terrorism in
general, or terrorism targeted towards people in the United States?

What I do condone is mocking idiot regulations and pointing out their
lack of effect. But I guess I shouldn't enjoy watching little holes
be poked into your delusional sense of security. As for terrorism, no
I don't condone it at all, but I would rather there was a terrorist on
every corner than give up any of our civil liberties in the name of
safety. History has already shown that giving them up doesn't result
in anyone being any safer.

Luckily the Gestapo has
people like you to spout their party line because most intelligent
people have stopped believing it when it comes from their mouth.

Hmm. I haven't spouted any party line, but you just did, literatum.

Wow, so brainwashed you probably think you have your own ideas too,
don't you? Don't worry the government will tell you what to think
next week too.

But maybe I still remember what question everything means.

"Brien K. Meehan" wrote:

(Darren Johnson) wrote in message . com...
I am just wondering what the potentially deadly situation was? Were
the bullets going to jump out and attack someone? Maybe he was going
to put them in his shoe and set it on fire?

Interesting speculations. Have these things been known to happen? Do
you believe these events are likely?

Maybe he was going to put them in a gun and fire it at someone.

Well, if he gets a gun, then we might have a problem. Until then, what's the
potentially deadly situation? I've not seen a gun shop at an airport yet, but
I could've missed one.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Jeb wrote:

http://www.itv.com/news/7878.html

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/index.html

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."