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Jay Honeck wrote:

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't
illegal?

In general not. Otherwise every gun store owner and manufactuer would
already be locked up. Depending on the local laws, it may or may not
be legal for me to carry locksmithing tools with me. In some cases it's
only illegal for me to carry them if I intend to use them to break the
law.

Good point. The law really does seem to be schizophrenic about this issue.

Not at all. Anybody can make and sell anything that has a legal use. It is using
the item to break the law that's illegal, and that includes conspiring to do so.
Nothing schizoid about it.

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Jay Honeck wrote:

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't
illegal?

In general not. Otherwise every gun store owner and manufactuer
would
already be locked up. Depending on the local laws, it may or may not
be legal for me to carry locksmithing tools with me. In some cases
it's
only illegal for me to carry them if I intend to use them to break the
law.

Good point. The law really does seem to be schizophrenic about this
issue.

Not at all. Anybody can make and sell anything that has a legal use. It is
using
the item to break the law that's illegal, and that includes conspiring to
do so.
Nothing schizoid about it.

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45 Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..

what about it? you live in cali where they're funny about that? cause ive
built several of my own guns including a .45, .308 FAL, AR-15 etc.(next
will be a AK) but as long as you do it within the boundaries of state and
federal laws its perfectly legal. -Nick (also a FFL holder)

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45
Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..

I doubt anyone you know built their own firearm. At least what the BATF
classifies as a firearm. In the case of the 1911 Style .45 it is the frame.
In the case of the AR-15 it is the lower receiver. those are the parts with
the serial number on them.

I've assembled several guns but I've never manufactured one. The paperwork
to do so would be ridicules.

Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

"BigNick73" wrote in message
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what about it? you live in cali where they're funny about that? cause ive
built several of my own guns including a .45, .308 FAL, AR-15 etc.(next
will be a AK) but as long as you do it within the boundaries of state and
federal laws its perfectly legal. -Nick (also a FFL holder)

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45
Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..

well i was refering to assembly and not manufactoring
but u can make your own firearms
With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it
is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms.
[18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and
179.105]


and yes i do know people that have done this and also assembled silencers
LEGALY. I'm not saying it isnt a pain in the ass and that alot of the laws
are iffy (like on FALs and AKs you must have X number of american made parts
and what types of accesories they have on em etc etc.). but you can do it.
and from what i hear the paperwork isnt that bad its the taxes ($200 for
silencers and $200 just to transfer a Class III/Full auto) and the 3 month
wait to get a reply. anyway this is too ot i think.

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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I doubt anyone you know built their own firearm. At least what the BATF
classifies as a firearm. In the case of the 1911 Style .45 it is the
frame.
In the case of the AR-15 it is the lower receiver. those are the parts
with
the serial number on them.

I've assembled several guns but I've never manufactured one. The paperwork
to do so would be ridicules.

Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

"BigNick73" wrote in message
.. .
what about it? you live in cali where they're funny about that? cause
ive
built several of my own guns including a .45, .308 FAL, AR-15 etc.(next
will be a AK) but as long as you do it within the boundaries of state
and
federal laws its perfectly legal. -Nick (also a FFL holder)

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45
Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..