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Old February 26th 04, 01:47 AM
Greg Esres
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I did some scanning of the 14 CFR Preambles, which make it clear that
you're right on this. An excerpt:

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The FAA does not agree that some or all commercial sightseeing flights
in airplanes or rotorcraft should be excluded from application of the
rule. Commercial sightseeing operations usually involve members of the
general public who have paid for a ride in an airplane or rotorcraft.
For purposes of the antidrug rule, the FAA has determined that the
safety implications of such operations are comparable to that of other
operations that routinely involve carriage of passengers. These
passengers should be given the protection inherent in other
passenger-carrying operations for compensation or hire that have an
approved antidrug program, without regard to size or scope of the
operations or the number of flights per year a particular operator
might conduct.

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Old February 26th 04, 01:59 AM
Gary Drescher
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Cool, thanks for digging that up.

--Gary

"Greg Esres" wrote in message
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I did some scanning of the 14 CFR Preambles, which make it clear that
you're right on this. An excerpt:

-----------snip----------------

The FAA does not agree that some or all commercial sightseeing flights
in airplanes or rotorcraft should be excluded from application of the
rule. Commercial sightseeing operations usually involve members of the
general public who have paid for a ride in an airplane or rotorcraft.
For purposes of the antidrug rule, the FAA has determined that the
safety implications of such operations are comparable to that of other
operations that routinely involve carriage of passengers. These
passengers should be given the protection inherent in other
passenger-carrying operations for compensation or hire that have an
approved antidrug program, without regard to size or scope of the
operations or the number of flights per year a particular operator
might conduct.

-----------snip----------------



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Old February 27th 04, 02:42 AM
C J Campbell
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"Greg Esres" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:58:35 GMT, "Gary Drescher"
wrote:

Can a commercial pilot be hired to rent a plane and fly a journalist on a
local flight for aerial photography, without meeting any operator
requirements? Or does that count as a sightseeing flight, invoking the

part
135 drug-testing rules?


It's not clear to me that the drug testing of Part 135 applies to
sightseeing tours for little airplanes.


Part 135 declares itself as having jurisdiction over sightseeing flights. It
does not need permission from part 119 to do that.

Flight instructors and everybody else who gives sightseeing flights get drug
testing if they are doing it legally. It is not a big deal. Most flight
schools sign up with a consortium that does the testing on a random basis
among all its members. The cost is fairly minimal and so is the paperwork.
That is about to change, though.

More FSDOs are demanding control of the drug testing program themselves.
Seattle FSDO recently told all the flight schools that they will now be
running drug testing for everybody.


 




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