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#1
March 3rd 04, 02:19 AM
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Larry,
For pete's sake (and all the rest of our sakes), give "Baby Bush" a rest - HERE. You've well established your anti-Bush political bias in this ng, and, I imagine, in as many other places as you can. I'm tired of it. I bet some others are, too. We don't come to this ng to hear about your hate for "Baby Bush". This isn't a political forum - get it? There ARE political forums. GO THERE, when you want to bash "Baby Bush". We come here to talk about aviation, not "Baby Bush, or any other politician making news.. To address your specific bitch in this instance, "Baby Bush" is causing no more inconvenience to GA with his travels and the resulting TFRs than would any other individual in the same position. Get over it. Cease and desist with your waste of ng bandwidth. 
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#2
March 3rd 04, 09:45 AM
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"CriticalMass" wrote in message ... Larry, For pete's sake (and all the rest of our sakes), give "Baby Bush" a rest - HERE. You've well established your anti-Bush political bias in this ng, and, I imagine, in as many other places as you can. I'm tired of it. I bet some others are, too. We don't come to this ng to hear about your hate for "Baby Bush". I wonder where he was when Bubba shut down all LA traffic for two hours while getting a haircut. This isn't a political forum - get it? There ARE political forums. GO THERE, when you want to bash "Baby Bush". We come here to talk about aviation, not "Baby Bush, or any other politician making news.. To address your specific bitch in this instance, "Baby Bush" is causing no more inconvenience to GA with his travels and the resulting TFRs than would any other individual in the same position. Get over it. Cease and desist with your waste of ng bandwidth. Any port in a storm.
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#3
March 3rd 04, 04:05 PM
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 01:45:47 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote in Message-Id: : I wonder where he was when Bubba shut down all LA traffic for two hours while getting a haircut. He was governing Texas as I recall. :-) Not to defend Clinton, but how often did what you assert occur? Was it a regular fact of life or a single incident?
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#4
March 3rd 04, 05:19 PM
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In an effort towards 'full disclosure' I would be remiss in pointing out
that during one of Clinton's visits he effectively shut down San Carlos Airport for nearly a week.... and I say this being a great Clinton fan. -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Student-IASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis -
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#5
March 3rd 04, 06:32 PM
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:
"CriticalMass" wrote in message I wonder where he was when Bubba shut down all LA traffic for two hours while getting a haircut. Not all LAX traffic was shut down for two hours. It was a boneheaded move for sure, and it caused some inconvenience, but it wasn't as bad as the stories make it up to be. At any rate, that was just one airport. These 30 nm TFR's are shutting down a lot of airports. -jav
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#6
March 4th 04, 05:17 PM
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Javier Henderson wrote:
"Tom Sixkiller" writes: "CriticalMass" wrote in message I wonder where he was when Bubba shut down all LA traffic for two hours while getting a haircut. Careful what you quote, please. "CriticalMass" didn't write that.
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#7
March 3rd 04, 04:54 PM
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:19:33 -0600, CriticalMass wrote
in Message-Id: : Larry, For pete's sake (and all the rest of our sakes), give "Baby Bush" a rest - HERE. I wasn't aware that you had been elected spokesman for ALL of rec.aviation.piloting. :-) You've well established your anti-Bush political bias in this ng, and, I imagine, in as many other places as you can. I'm tired of it. Perhaps YOU would like to take _responsibility_ for the content of this newsgroup to which YOU are exposed, and filter out all the phrases and authors YOU find unpalatable. Or are you really just looking for an excuse to attack me publicly. I bet some others are, too. We don't come to this ng to hear about your hate for "Baby Bush". The only time the word 'hate' has been used in this thread (until now) is by you. You can characterize my article as hateful if that is how you perceive it, but the fact is, it's merely FACTUAL. The hate you perceive is yours; please don't project it onto me. Perhaps it is baby Bush's audacious airspace grabs that are TRULY hateful in their arrogant disregard for those he serves. The notice I posted is on-topic for this newsgroup. Thank you for not taking exception to the content of my article, as it contains solely the words of AOPA. The statement made in the article's Subject is also valid. To what is it specifically, that you object? Or are you even capable of articulating your specific objection? Please provide a quote of the text you find offending from the article that started this message thread, or apologize. Perhaps you can point out the modicum of _information_ you provided in your followup article to which I am replying. I am completely unable to find any on-topic information in it at all. It seems just an immature, groundless, publicly taunting rant. This isn't a political forum - get it? There ARE political forums. GO THERE, when you want to bash "Baby Bush". IF A POLITICIAN AFFECTS THE NAS, THAT'S ON TOPIC -- GET IT? We come here to talk about aviation, not "Baby Bush, or any other politician making news.. And you'll notice that the topic of my article is related to the Presidential TFRs, not political news. Please explain how you feel TFRs are not aviation related? :-) It seems that it is you who wishes to raise the issue of the political nature of this airspace grab. I was content to simply provide the TFR information for any airmen who might be affected by it, but if you insist on debating the political aspect, perhaps I can accommodate you. To address your specific bitch in this instance, "Baby Bush" is causing no more inconvenience to GA with his travels and the resulting TFRs than would any other individual in the same position. Oh, now you're prescient! How thoughtful of you to share your gift. :-) Your complete lack of authority to make such a ridiculous, presumptive statement about how another individual might act in the future reveals your obvious lack of critical thinking on this issue. How can you possibly know what will happen in the future? You don't. Considering the precedent the President and his gang has now set, the future is most likely to bring ever more and larger TFRs if the next president is as uninformed as baby Bush is. Bush's question, regarding why he wasn't landing at Meigs (shortly after its midnight destruction) showed how unconcerned he is about GA. Perhaps a GA pilot in the White House might mitigate such onerous offences against the NAS. Get over it. I find it difficult to get over a Temporary Flight Restriction that exceeds 3,000 square miles in area. Perhaps you don't have a problem with it, but AOPA and I do. This huge TFR that surrounds the leader of the free world is unreasonable, absurd, and an arrogant intrusion on the rights of the public whom he serves. Perhaps your prescience will provide an answer to the question, "will political TFRs increase or decrease in size and number in the future?" :-) Cease and desist with your waste of ng bandwidth. Your imperious attempt at groundless censorship, in this most egalitarian of public forums, reveals your oppressive totalitarian proclivity.
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#8
March 3rd 04, 05:21 PM
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Well said! And you are certainly on-topic considering what has been going
on with the pop-tfr's all around our country . -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Student-IASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - "
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#9
March 3rd 04, 06:05 PM
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
The notice I posted is on-topic for this newsgroup. ... The statement made in the article's Subject is also valid. While the content of your post may have been on-topic, your adjectives (ie, "Baby Bush") is what paints it in a negative light - and the subject line content was entirely yours. Further, your subject was not valid since Bush does not make the decision to close any airspace much less airports due to his travel. Those decisions are made by bureaucrats - ones that exist regardless of the party affiliation of the sitting President. Now, if you'd left out the derogatory "Baby Bush", I'm sure you wouldn't have engendered the ire of "CriticalMass". -- John T http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415 ____________________
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