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Old March 6th 04, 04:13 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"cn8cg" wrote in message

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Religious nut stuff.



As opposed to anti-religious nuts, I suppose. Frankly, the supposedly
non-religious appear to be every bit as dangerous and bigoted as the very
devout.


The non-religious didn't slaughter 260 million in the past 1000 years.


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Old March 6th 04, 05:33 PM
C J Campbell
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"cn8cg" wrote in message

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Religious nut stuff.



As opposed to anti-religious nuts, I suppose. Frankly, the supposedly
non-religious appear to be every bit as dangerous and bigoted as the

very
devout.


The non-religious didn't slaughter 260 million in the past 1000 years.



Nonsense. The Nazis alone slaughtered more than that. And they are
definitely secular.


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Old March 5th 04, 10:07 AM
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(after taking the kids to see
"The Passion of the Christ" this evening.


The (high-school) kids think the movie is "cool." They all went to see
it. It's a test of manhood (boyhood, anyhow).

"Passion" was the only occasion in which I have found the Wall Street
Journal and The New Yorker in total agreement. (Like you, they said:
don't bother.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old March 5th 04, 12:12 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Just visited "alt.religion" for the first time (after taking the kids to see
"The Passion of the Christ" this evening. Tip of the Day: Don't waste your


You should have known better than to take your kids. It's not like the
graphic violence has been kept a secret in the press.

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Old March 5th 04, 12:51 PM
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You should have known better than to take your kids. It's not like the
graphic violence has been kept a secret in the press.


Well, there's violence, and there's violence. My kids have seen "Terminator
III" -- also rated "R", and quite violent -- without difficulty.

I think the motion picture authority really blew it by letting this movie
out with an "R" rating. It's easily NC-17, or worse.
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Old March 5th 04, 03:20 PM
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I think the motion picture authority really blew it by letting this movie
out with an "R" rating. It's easily NC-17, or worse.


Yea, that's probably true, but they HAVE been reporting in the press,
pretty regularly (and pretty graphically) how graphic this movie is.

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Old March 5th 04, 09:35 PM
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Yea, that's probably true, but they HAVE been reporting in the press,
pretty regularly (and pretty graphically) how graphic this movie is.


I never, EVER believe ANYTHING I read in the newspaper about a movie. They
are usually 180 degrees off in their assessments.

In this case, however, they were correct.
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Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 5th 04, 12:28 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

......(after taking the kids to see
"The Passion of the Christ" this evening.


What on earth would have induced you to take kids to that movie? Have you
been unaware of the controversy?


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Old March 5th 04, 12:34 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

......(after taking the kids to see
"The Passion of the Christ" this evening.


What on earth would have induced you to take kids to that movie? Have you
been unaware of the controversy?


Yeah...almost as much controversy as Jay's Hotel .sig line.


--
"Don’t bother to examine a folly—
ask yourself only what it accomplishes. . . .
It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice,
there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings
.. . . . The man who speaks to you of sacrifice,
speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to
be the master."


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Old March 5th 04, 01:01 PM
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What on earth would have induced you to take kids to that movie? Have you
been unaware of the controversy?


Well, believe it or not we wanted to give our kids an unvarnished view of
the Christian religion. At home we (two hard-core,
brought-up-in-parochial-schools-but-fallen-away-Catholics) vigorously
subscribe to no organized religion, and we thought it would be good for them
to see the story of Jesus in a medium that they fully relate to and
understand -- film.

We have not had a lot of luck interesting them in exploring religions, yet.
For some reason organized religions have not plugged into the
"Playstation"/"Gameboy" marketing mentality, and getting teens and pre-teens
to sit and read the Bible is tough when their main competition is video
games.

In fact, the only fair competition for their attention is a movie -- thus,
our logic. (And, also, by the way, Mel Gibson's logic.) Mary and I figured
they were old enough to know that the violence depicted was simply
play-acting.

I didn't count on MY not being able to handle it. I've not seen anything
like it before, and I don't intend to see anything like it again.

Ironically, what we got from Mel Gibson's film is this: I can now almost
guarantee that neither child will grow up practicing *that* particular
religion.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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