4130 - bad news...

Earnest,

For what it's worth, I just got back from day 1 at SWRFI and
there IS a Dyke on display!

I have to admit, it is a cool plane.
Very different.

But it took 26 years to build???

(Somebody was goofing off!)


Richard

Richard Lamb wrote:
Earnest,

For what it's worth, I just got back from day 1 at SWRFI and
there IS a Dyke on display!

I have to admit, it is a cool plane.
Very different.

But it took 26 years to build???

(Somebody was goofing off!)


Richard

That sounds like N78BS, Bernie Schnanowski's bird (just look at me name
dropping like I know people).

Are you sure they didn't say that it's been flying 26years, which is
right about the age of N78BS I believe.

I'm about halfway through (quit laughing). 1500 of a 3000 hour project,
and I've only been at it two years.

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"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

On Sat, 15 May 2004 04:11:28 GMT, Ernest Christley
wrote:

That sounds like N78BS, Bernie Schnanowski's bird (just look at me name
dropping like I know people).

Are you sure they didn't say that it's been flying 26years, which is
right about the age of N78BS I believe.

Bernie was a member of a Seattle-area EAA Chapter when I joined about
twenty years ago. His plane was flying then, and he'd originally completed
it in New York before he moved to Seattle. The FAA lists the plane as a
1980 model.

The current owner is the builder's son...I think he's named Bernie, as
well.

Ron Wanttaja

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Sat, 15 May 2004 04:11:28 GMT, Ernest Christley
wrote:

That sounds like N78BS, Bernie Schnanowski's bird (just look at me name
dropping like I know people).

Are you sure they didn't say that it's been flying 26years, which is
right about the age of N78BS I believe.


Bernie was a member of a Seattle-area EAA Chapter when I joined about
twenty years ago. His plane was flying then, and he'd originally completed
it in New York before he moved to Seattle. The FAA lists the plane as a
1980 model.

The current owner is the builder's son...I think he's named Bernie, as
well.

Ron Wanttaja

Bernie senior is building a Sonex (I think) right now. Bernie junior
now flies N78BS down around Atlanta.
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"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

Ernest Christley wrote:

Richard Lamb wrote:
Earnest,

For what it's worth, I just got back from day 1 at SWRFI and
there IS a Dyke on display!

I have to admit, it is a cool plane.
Very different.

But it took 26 years to build???

(Somebody was goofing off!)


Richard

That sounds like N78BS, Bernie Schnanowski's bird (just look at me name
dropping like I know people).

Are you sure they didn't say that it's been flying 26years, which is
right about the age of N78BS I believe.

I'm about halfway through (quit laughing). 1500 of a 3000 hour project,
and I've only been at it two years.

--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/

Yep - Bernie was the guy I talked to.

Nope - he said it only had 12 flying hours on it.


Richard

Richard Lamb wrote:
Ernest Christley wrote:

Richard Lamb wrote:

Earnest,

For what it's worth, I just got back from day 1 at SWRFI and
there IS a Dyke on display!

I have to admit, it is a cool plane.
Very different.

But it took 26 years to build???

(Somebody was goofing off!)


Richard

That sounds like N78BS, Bernie Schnanowski's bird (just look at me name
dropping like I know people).

Are you sure they didn't say that it's been flying 26years, which is
right about the age of N78BS I believe.

I'm about halfway through (quit laughing). 1500 of a 3000 hour project,
and I've only been at it two years.

--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/


Yep - Bernie was the guy I talked to.

Nope - he said it only had 12 flying hours on it.


Richard

Must admit that I haven't a clue as to which bird you saw. Did you get
a tail number? It's definitely not N78BS, though.

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"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

On Sat, 15 May 2004 01:45:03 +1200, "Cam" wrote:

What a crock of ****!




I know most auto manufactures prohibit gas welding the stuff. MIG or
TIG is OK and brass should not be a problem as long as the temp stays
low enough. Some of the HSLA's apparantly are highly corrosion
resistant as well.

Brazing high strength alloy steel components of automotive bodies is
STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. Mig and tig are acceptable if done to
specifications - spot welding is most common.




Simply because the slopeheads haven't built a robot to do it for them yet!

Q' What part of an aircraft would you want to use 4130 sheet steel for?


Ps I'd love to see a production car that has any TIG welding as part of
its constuction.

Cam.................

By the same token, any torch brazed components, or any O/A welded?

MIG and spot welding are almost exclusively used in automotive
manufacturing, under VERY strictly controlled process. The weld
spacings, weld heat, and weld positions are all ENGINEERED, and no
deviations are permitted.
This is to make sure the body is SAFE, and failure in case of
collision damage etc is predictable.

4140 plate is used for gussets, finger straps, brackets, control
bellcranks, landing gear fittings, float fittings, strut attatchments,
spar mounting points, flap and aelerin controls, to mention a few.
Something like 6 square feet overall in a Pegazair.