R in a Circle (Airport Surveillance Radar) on VFR charts

"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
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Ok, I get that, but what makes this information useful to the pilot?


It tells the pilot where ASR is located when there is no other indicator and
how to obtain radar services.



For example, what is available to a pilot landing at Nantucket (Class
D, Cape Approach, R-in-circle) that is not available at Vineyard
Haven (Martha's Vineyard with Class D, Cape Appraoch, No
R-in-circle)? Both airports have a number of approaches,
including ILS that controllers can vector pilots to.


If you're operating IFR it's not an issue. If you're operating VFR, you
wouldn't know that radar services were available if the information was not
published somewhere. What better place to put it than the sectional, the
publication most used by VFR pilots?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
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Ok, I get that, but what makes this information useful to the pilot?


It tells the pilot where ASR is located when there is no other indicator and
how to obtain radar services.


For example, what is available to a pilot landing at Nantucket (Class
D, Cape Approach, R-in-circle) that is not available at Vineyard
Haven (Martha's Vineyard with Class D, Cape Appraoch, No
R-in-circle)? Both airports have a number of approaches,
including ILS that controllers can vector pilots to.


If you're operating IFR it's not an issue. If you're operating VFR, you
wouldn't know that radar services were available if the information was not
published somewhere.

Thanks for the explanation, although I haven't found any more or less radar
services to be available at KACK (Nantucket, w/ the R symbol) than at KMVY
(Vineyard Haven) or even KPVC, which was why I am curious.


What better place to put it than the sectional, the
publication most used by VFR pilots?

Sounds good. I just wish they felt the same away about approach control
frequencies for airports such as KRDG.

"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the explanation, although I haven't found any more or
less radar services to be available at KACK (Nantucket, w/ the
R symbol) than at KMVY (Vineyard Haven) or even KPVC,
which was why I am curious.


The symbol indicates where the ASR is located, of course radar services are
available at other airports within range. Typically 30 miles or more.



Sounds good. I just wish they felt the same away about approach
control frequencies for airports such as KRDG.


In the Airport Data block there should be an ATIS frequency or a "VFR Advsy"
frequency, (more likely ATIS). At fields with ATIS the recording should
have the frequency for traffic advisories, at fields without ATIS the VFR
Advsy frequency will be in the data block.

Jeff Saylor wrote:

The R in a circle symbol next to an airport on Sectionals nindicates
that this airport has Airport Surveillance Radar.

No, it doesn't. It indicates a private airport. The one you mention near Stewart is
named "Middle Hope".

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

No, that's a different symbol...

Look on your sectional legend under Airport Data. It shows a solid circle
with a white "R" next to the airport name indicating "Airport Surveillance
Radar".

I made the same mistake when I first started checking this out on a
Sectional...


"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jeff Saylor wrote:

The R in a circle symbol next to an airport on Sectionals nindicates
that this airport has Airport Surveillance Radar.

No, it doesn't. It indicates a private airport. The one you mention near
Stewart is
named "Middle Hope".

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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No, it doesn't. It indicates a private airport. The one you mention
near Stewart is named "Middle Hope".


I believe he's referring to the R inside the small blue circle next to the
airport name, not the magenta R inside the airport symbol.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

I believe he's referring to the R inside the small blue circle next to the
airport name, not the magenta R inside the airport symbol.

Right. My mistake.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

Follow on:

I did a quick scan of the Chicago Sectional, and the only one I found was
Waterloo (ALO).


"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jeff Saylor wrote:

The R in a circle symbol next to an airport on Sectionals nindicates
that this airport has Airport Surveillance Radar.

No, it doesn't. It indicates a private airport. The one you mention near
Stewart is
named "Middle Hope".

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.