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Old May 12th 04, 10:31 PM
Greg Copeland
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:14:08 +0000, Flyin'8 wrote:

The instructors at Pierce would surely disagree with you; I was taught

that
it was supremely poor grammar to use 'me' in that way. "Only
philllistenes speak in such a manner" I can clearly remember my third
grade teacher explaining when a student used poor grammar.

"Jane took John and I to dinner." or "Jane took John and myself to

dinner."
are the two ways we specifically learned that sentence. Any insertion
of 'me' into those sentences would have earned us a scolding.


Either you're mis-remembering what your third grade teacher said, or
you're entitled to a tuition refund from Pierce. Are you sure the
teacher wasn't just objecting to sentences such as "John and me took Jane
to dinner"? In *that* sentence, "I" is correct, not "me". But people
often overgeneralize that correction; instead of learning to use "I"
instead of "me" as a subject, they end up using "I" instead of "me" even
as an object.
--Gary


A quick rule of thumb, If you can remove the first part of the sentence,
and it still makes sense, you have the correct pronoun.

For example in the abve metioned sentence, "Jane took John and (I/me) to
dinner."

"Jane took I to dinner." or "Jane took me to dinner."

So in the sentence, the proper word is 'me', "Jane took John and me to
dinner."

or

"Jane and (I/me) went to dinner."

"I went to dinner." or "Me went to dinner."



That's the way I was taught it.

Funny how we're getting a grammer lesson in rec.aviation.piloting.

Hehe...

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Old May 12th 04, 10:42 PM
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ObAviation: why is it, when I'm flying solo, I still tell controllers
"we're going to do something"?


Because you're going to take the airplane with you, and airplanes are female.

Jose

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Old May 12th 04, 10:50 PM
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Dunno if that way is correct, but at least I remember something from those
days long ago in school. Guess the tax dollars learned me something. :-)

That's the way I was taught it.

Funny how we're getting a grammer lesson in rec.aviation.piloting.

Hehe...


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Old May 12th 04, 10:55 PM
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Greg Copeland wrote:


I'm in Texas and he's got it nailed. Though I have seen Y'All used for
both singual and plural too.


But we are talking about the South, not Texas! Heck, I even hear that
you Texans think meat for barbecue comes from a steer, so what do you
know? g

(That should stir the pot!)
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Old May 12th 04, 11:08 PM
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alexy wrote:

But we are talking about the South, not Texas! Heck, I even hear that
you Texans think meat for barbecue comes from a steer, so what do you
know? g


Naw! Anyone who's tasted Texas barbeque knows they don't use steers for that. Beef
would taste better than that. They must use polecats.

George Patterson
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Old May 12th 04, 11:38 PM
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This affectation is brought to you by the same people who use "y'all"
in the singular when trying to imitate an accent from the US South.
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I know of at least one northerner who learned "y'all" when she moved to GA and
it was singular as "all y'all" was the plural in that region.

Margy

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Old May 12th 04, 11:46 PM
alexy
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Margy Natalie wrote:



This affectation is brought to you by the same people who use "y'all"
in the singular when trying to imitate an accent from the US South.
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I know of at least one northerner who learned "y'all" when she moved to GA and
it was singular as "all y'all" was the plural in that region.


Someone was pulling her leg.

Alex (18 years in Birmingham, 4 in Memphis, and 24 in Atlanta, and
never once heard y'all as singular, except by people trying to fake a
Southern accent)

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Old May 12th 04, 11:53 PM
Gary Drescher
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"alexy" wrote in message
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Margy Natalie wrote:
This affectation is brought to you by the same people who use "y'all"
in the singular when trying to imitate an accent from the US South.
--


I know of at least one northerner who learned "y'all" when she moved to

GA and
it was singular as "all y'all" was the plural in that region.


Someone was pulling her leg.

Alex (18 years in Birmingham, 4 in Memphis, and 24 in Atlanta, and
never once heard y'all as singular, except by people trying to fake a
Southern accent)


The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary defines y'all as "YOU--usually used in
addressing two or more persons or sometimes one person as representing also
another or others".

--Gary


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Old May 13th 04, 12:36 AM
tony
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But we are talking about the South, not Texas! Heck, I even hear that
you Texans think meat for barbecue comes from a steer, so what do you


Sspeaking of U2s, I have a distinct memory of my first trip to Houston, where
the hotel was advertising that their beef was corn fed from Kansas.

CLEAR!

 




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