Stiffed on Ebay

Jay, check out this eBay page on non-paying bidders:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/npb.html


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Jay Honeck ) wrote:

Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?

With seventeen ebay seller auctions under my belt, I have had two non-
paying bidders. In both cases, I kept all of my email exchanges with the
deadbeats (stored in their own mail folders under Outlook) and documented
my attempts to collect as evidence, then left negative feedback.

In one case, the NPB was an AOL subscriber and would not reply to any of my
emails, so I downloaded AOL's Instant Messenger and configured it to alert
me when he signed on to AOL. When he signed on, I immediately IM'ed him to
ask if he planned on paying for the auction. He told me to take a hike, so
I saved the IM conversation and stored it with my email documentation, then
re-listed the auction.

In his negative feedback, I included a note encouraging prospective sellers
to contact me for information about this bidder. One seller did. Upon
learning of my IM conversation, the seller canceled this sorry sap's bid on
the seller's auction. Soon thereafter I noticed that both of my NPB's
userid's were delisted from eBay.

I have heard of "retaliatory feedback," whereby a non-paying bidder gives
the seller bad feedback in retaliation for receiving bad feedback. There
really is no protection for this other than the "respond to feedback"
option, where you can leave a response to the negative feedback left by a
NPB. Such is eBay...

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How about being stiffed by a seller?

I have both bought and sold a lot of stuff on eBay - with generally
excellent results. One guy sent me the wrong avionics unit by mistake -
and then sent the right one as soon as he had discovered his mistake
(before I had even received the first). He told me to keep both!

However, recently I bought a navcomm that was allegedly in good shape -
the seller "guaranteed" it (supposedly). It was the same as one I
already have in my plane, so there should be no problem checking it
out. I pulled the old one out (which works) and slid the new one
in and -- nothing. It came with a mounting tray with marked leads,
so I tried it on the bench. Still nothing. No doubt about it being DOA.

Contacted the seller and he agreed to take it back. Sent it back to
him and he acknowledged that it was defective. However, getting
my money back is another matter. In addition to paying shipping both
ways, he wants me to pay his eBay auction fee and give him positive
feedback besides! No way, Jose! I expect to pay the shipping, but
the auction fees are his responsibility. Feedback (which I rarely
indulge in) is the truth as to how I feel about the transaction, and
not subject to anyone's coercion.

I'd like to nail this guy if he fails to see the error of his ways.
Any suggestions?

David Johnson

I expect to pay the shipping...

For a unit that's DOA? I wouldn't.

Jose


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Jay

I have an OLD Narco AT5-A Transponder (head and main unit) that has
been sitting in my garage for a long time. Some corrosion on outside
from Houston humidity.

PROBABLY ONLY GOOD FOR PARTS????

Will give to anyone who pays the packing and postage. Probably
$15-$20???

I just hate too see pieces go in the garbage can if anyone can use.

Was the corn knee high by the 4th of July?

See where Chariton got $175,000 for their airport from Gvt this year
)

John


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:50:46 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm really
surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics buyer who
simply won't pay for the item he won.

I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with a
Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.

That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of his
payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to "look
into it."

I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have re-listed
the transponder for sale.

This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy and
painless.

Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?

"Big John" wrote in message
This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy and
painless.

Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?


In my family we have bought and sold many things via ebay, with nary a
problem. Give him a hard negative feedback, so others can avoid him.

In my family we have bought and sold many things via ebay, with nary a
problem. Give him a hard negative feedback, so others can avoid him.

I did.

And I just now FINALLY got paid by the guy who bought it on my second
attempt. The winner was in THAILAND, despite my clearly stating that I
would only ship in the U.S.

He went through some gymnastics, and arranged it so that I could ship the
transponder to a friend in New Jersey -- but it still took weeks for him to
send a money order from overseas. (WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
so easy and quick....)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
so easy and quick....)

I use Paypal to pay others, but will not accept it as payment to me.

Getting your money from them is like pulling teeth. If you leave it with them,
and use it as an eBay trading fund only, it's ok.
If you want your money, forget it.



www.Rosspilot.com

In a previous article, ospam (Rosspilot) said:
WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
so easy and quick....)

I use Paypal to pay others, but will not accept it as payment to me.

Getting your money from them is like pulling teeth. If you leave it with them,
and use it as an eBay trading fund only, it's ok.
If you want your money, forget it.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I use Paypal to accept
donations on the Waypoint Generator site, and about once every month or
two I click the button to transfer the money to my account, and 4 or 5
days later it appears in my account. The only thing that is easier is the
Amazon Honor System which puts the money in my account automatically.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of
tapes hurtling down the highway.
-- Andrew Tannenbaum possibly quoting Warren Jackson

I have an OLD Narco AT5-A Transponder (head and main unit) that has
been sitting in my garage for a long time. Some corrosion on outside
from Houston humidity.

I've seen AT5-As selling on Ebay -- usually for $30 - $40, plus shipping!
You might give it a whirl -- it's certainly better than chucking it!

Was the corn knee high by the 4th of July?

Ha! This has been the single greatest growing season in Iowa history. To
illustrate: The corn was OVER MY HEAD on the Fourth of July!

Never seen anything like it. For once, Iowa has been not too hot, not too
dry, not too wet, not too cold, not stormy -- heck, I have not read ONE
SINGLE COMPLAINT in the paper from a farmer yet this summer!

(Not that I actually know any farmers -- Iowa City is as urban as Milwaukee,
and more cosmopolitan than Chicago. But I see one once in a while, usually
from 1500 AGL...)

Ah, shoot -- one thing is for certain: There is no such thing as a happy
farmer. I have absolute faith that soon they will be complaining once
again -- about the depressed prices caused by their bumper crop!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"