Verifying flap retraction

AJW wrote:

Well, exactly what would you do about it if you're flying a missed approach or
a touch and go and found your flaps had not retracted?

I would increase my angle of attack and use the correct airspeed for the flap setting
to get the best rate of climb that I could under the circumstances. If you use the
appropriate departure airspeed for 0 degrees of flaps when you actually have 20
degrees down, the climb rate (or lack thereof) could be a problem. The longer it
takes you to realize it, the closer the trees get.

George Patterson
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:

If you use the
appropriate departure airspeed for 0 degrees of flaps when you actually have 20
degrees down, the climb rate (or lack thereof) could be a problem.

In a Cessna if you try to use a zero flap airspeed with flaps 20 you
will wonder why you have to hold it on the ground to keep it from
flying. Having the flaps stuck at 20 is no emergency.



The longer it
takes you to realize it, the closer the trees get.

In a Cessna you will shoot over those trees with no problem.

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

In a Cessna if you try to use a zero flap airspeed with flaps 20 you
will wonder why you have to hold it on the ground to keep it from
flying. Having the flaps stuck at 20 is no emergency.


Neither is having a door pop open but, look how many pilots that has killed.
Anything you are not prepared to deal with is a hazard.

Not checking retraction of flaps at 20 degrees is pretty far down the list
of dangers. However, not being in the habit of checking bumps it way up
when you use 30 or 40 in a tight spot.

--

Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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Neither is having a door pop open but, look how many pilots that has
killed.

Roger Long

I just proved that to myself today. Took off with the upper latch undone on
the Archer. Decided to go on to the next airport (five miles) and land
there to fix it. Got distracted and forgot the boost pump in the pattern.
Not a disaster, but I demonstrated to myself that a door open can be more of
a distraction than I had thought. Doh!

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

"I just proved that to myself today. Took off with the upper latch undone
on the Archer. Decided to go on to the next airport (five miles) and....

You're not alone. Recently, I was reading an older issue of P&P, and they
did a pilot report on a Cherokee, shown with the upper latch undone.... :-)

"Bob Chilcoat" wrote in message
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"Roger Long" wrote in message
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Neither is having a door pop open but, look how many pilots that has
killed.

Roger Long

I just proved that to myself today. Took off with the upper latch undone
on
the Archer. Decided to go on to the next airport (five miles) and land
there to fix it. Got distracted and forgot the boost pump in the pattern.
Not a disaster, but I demonstrated to myself that a door open can be more
of
a distraction than I had thought. Doh!

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America