Anti Collision Warning

Marcel Duenner wrote:
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Therefor it should not be a real problem to get it legalised for this
special purpose. Nowadays anything is possible if you just say the
word "safety".

It is a real problem. Laws are made by politicians, and politicians
only care about voters. Soaring pilots are a such small minority of
voters that politicians don't care about them.

Robert Ehrlich wrote in message ...
Marcel Duenner wrote:
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Therefor it should not be a real problem to get it legalised for this
special purpose. Nowadays anything is possible if you just say the
word "safety".

It is a real problem. Laws are made by politicians, and politicians
only care about voters. Soaring pilots are a such small minority of
voters that politicians don't care about them.

Devices like this could also be used on GA aircrafts. Even polititions
fly, and I'm sure they will be happy to know the plane they are on
rely on GPS technology rather than a 40 years old radar technology.
Hopefully one day these devices will replace transponders on ALL
aircrafts and will be required on all aircrafts. Then the madness of
mid airs will end.

Ramy

"Ramy Yanetz" wrote in message
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Robert Ehrlich wrote in message
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Hopefully one day these devices will replace transponders on ALL
aircrafts and will be required on all aircrafts. Then the madness of
mid airs will end.

Ramy

No it wont! More than half of the midairs recently involved aircraft where
the pilots were flying together, knew that the other aircraft was there and
*still* collided. All that anti collision systems would have added to these
situations would have been a bit of total aircraft mass.

The problem we currently have is that in spite of knowing that other
aircraft are very close by pilots are getting it wrong and banging in to
each other.

We need to review -
Thermal joining techniques
Thermal leaving techniques
co-thermaling practices
co-operative flying practice.

Read Paul Adriance's account of his accident earlier this month, it wasn't
caused by GPS or any other form of instrumentation, weather or anything else
and no form of instrumentation would have changed the outcome. The pilots
simply lost situational awareness and in a few moments it all went very
wrong.

Ian

See my other reply below. These devices should be capable to warn you of
imminent collision even while thermaling, not just warn you of nearby
aircraft. And if they currently don't, they will in the near future. It
should not be too difficult to compute collision courses.

Ramy


"tango4" wrote in message
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"Ramy Yanetz" wrote in message
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Robert Ehrlich wrote in message
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Hopefully one day these devices will replace transponders on ALL
aircrafts and will be required on all aircrafts. Then the madness of
mid airs will end.

Ramy

No it wont! More than half of the midairs recently involved aircraft where
the pilots were flying together, knew that the other aircraft was there
and
*still* collided. All that anti collision systems would have added to
these
situations would have been a bit of total aircraft mass.

The problem we currently have is that in spite of knowing that other
aircraft are very close by pilots are getting it wrong and banging in to
each other.

We need to review -
Thermal joining techniques
Thermal leaving techniques
co-thermaling practices
co-operative flying practice.

Read Paul Adriance's account of his accident earlier this month, it wasn't
caused by GPS or any other form of instrumentation, weather or anything
else
and no form of instrumentation would have changed the outcome. The pilots
simply lost situational awareness and in a few moments it all went very
wrong.

Ian

"Ramy Yanetz" wrote in message .com...
See my other reply below. These devices should be capable to warn you of
imminent collision even while thermaling, not just warn you of nearby
aircraft. And if they currently don't, they will in the near future. It
should not be too difficult to compute collision courses.


That is exactly what FLARM does.