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John Galloway wrote:
At 15:00 18 January 2005, Don Johnstone wrote: I think that the test pilots concerned knew exactly how they got there but it may not have helped them much. I re-call seeing a very good video of a Jaguar that had departed and was tumbling end over end with fuel being forced out of the jet intakes. I think the pilot took about 20000ft to find a point where he could break into the sequence and return to controlled flight. As a result the action to be taken if a Jaguar departs is seize the handle between your legs and pull hard. Well, Don, its a good enough way of passing one's last few moments but I would try ejecting rather than.... and the next part of the line is just so obvious I can't even bring myself to finish.....damn - done it again. Now how would the NTSB address *that* in the accident report. Delicately, I'd hope. Shawn |
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At 14:31 18 January 2005, Colin Lamb wrote:
'What is most important is 'situational awarness'. A pilot must learn to know where he is and how he got there.' The last part of that statemenht may not always be true. I have read reports from test pilots who intentionally place the aircraft in out-of-control positions in order to determine a recovery procedure. A common response is that they ride the aircraft until they are in a position they recognize and as soon as that happens they can recover. How they got there was irrelevant. Although few airplanes use yaw strings (the pilots are still behind the curve a bit), they are normally used on helicopters. Although the pedals are used to counteract the torque of the tail rotor, we operate them the same way - keep the yarn centered. Colin N12HS Wha-a-t? How can you use a yaw string in a helicopter? Doesn't the rotor wash it around? Educate me. (I had one helicopter ride in an H-13 in 1954; didn't see no stinkin' yaw string.) |
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"How can you use a yaw string in a helicopter? Doesn't
the rotor wash it around? Educate me. (I had one helicopter ride in an H-13 in 1954; didn't see no stinkin' yaw string.)" Helicopter pilots have learned a lot since 1954. I fly helicopters (just Schweizers). Perhaps the production crew kept putting them on from sailplane days, but they work just like any other yaw string. And, they are brightly colored yarn, too. Only one of the helicopters I have flown has a turn and bank indicator - and all have the yarn. When you are hovering, the yarn is meaningless - but you are not going anywhere, either. As soon as you move to forward flight, the relative wind goes from the front of the helicopter to the back, just like any other aircraft. At best glide ratio, I get just over 3:1, but with a headwind the glide angle approaches that of an elevator. Colin N12HS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/04 |
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