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I just clicked on it and it works for me. Doesn the ")" end up in the
address for you? If so, try removing it. http://www.continuo.com/marske/carbon/carbon.htm "B2431" wrote in message ... From: "Dave Schneider" Date: 12/14/2004 13:06 Central Standard Time Message-id: Thanks. I see you are using the carbon rods too. (in reference to a previous link: http://www.continuo.com/marske/carbon/carbon.htm) That link didn't work for me. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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Well I bit the bullet and ordered the $95 program. That may seem like a
lot, but Don also wants to verfiy that your using the program correctly. I'm thinking that the consulting support that goes with the program makes it a bargan! "Dave Schneider" wrote in message ... Thanks. The prop optimizer is interesting too. My other interest is hovercraft. Again, not an airplane, but it does have airplane components ... and I guess it does fly ... even if it is only inches above the surface. :-) http://groups.msn.com/UH13p I have emailed them and asked for the appropriateness of their programs for my non-standard applications. "Fitzair4" wrote in message ... Bates Engineering has a DOS computer program for designing a wing spar. www.aeroOptimizer.com I have met him and listen to his forums at Oshkosh many times. Larry Fitzgerald |
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I have never seen a Quickie that had a removeable canard or main wing.
( I built the single place, so I'm certain of that.) I have looked at hundreds of pictures of other Quickies or seen them in person and have never seen removeable wings. ( Not to say that someone out there hasn't done it of course, but it's not in the construction plans ) The fuselage, however, can disconnect aft of the main wing if you would like to build it that way. It's approved, but take it from me, it's a nightmare !! I do believe the main wing of the Dragonfly is removeable, but I'm not sure of the canard. Neal Fulco James R. Freeman wrote: Dave for Your info. The Quickie and Q2 use a fiberglass build up spar as You will see from the plans. The Q-200 uses a carbon fiber spar. Yes the Quickie canard (front wing) can be removed. Jim "James R. Freeman" wrote in message ... Dave: I found the URL. It is: http://www.finleyweb.net/default.asp?id=141 Jim "Dave Schneider" wrote in message ... after a bit of surfing i found this. Is something like this what you are talking about? http://www.hinkleymall.com/airplane_cd.html There is also this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=26441&item =4510814564&rd=1 Basic question for the Quickie, do the wings disassemble? I'm also looking for techniques for attaching wings. Thanks! Dave "James R. Freeman" wrote in message ... Dave: Take a look at the ruttan wings on a q-1 or q2 it will fit the bill for what you want. There is one site on the web for free downloads of the q2 info but I do not have the URL at hand. Q1 plan can be had on C.D. for less than $10 via EBay. "Dave Schneider" wrote in message ... Can anyone suggest some home built construction sites where they show the process of building a spar for a foam composite wing. I'm confused on how a spar is built for a foam wing. It doesn't seem like the foam itself would provide enough structure to provide a web. It would seem like you'd have to cut the wing foil, cut out the location of the spar, build the spar, and then reinstert that section back into the foam wing. Thanks, Dave |
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I've been looking at the plans and didn't see anything removable either.
I'm familiar with the way model airplanes join segmented wings, but I'm unsure if they do something similar on "real" airplanes. wrote in message ups.com... I have never seen a Quickie that had a removeable canard or main wing. ( I built the single place, so I'm certain of that.) I have looked at hundreds of pictures of other Quickies or seen them in person and have never seen removeable wings. ( Not to say that someone out there hasn't done it of course, but it's not in the construction plans ) The fuselage, however, can disconnect aft of the main wing if you would like to build it that way. It's approved, but take it from me, it's a nightmare !! I do believe the main wing of the Dragonfly is removeable, but I'm not sure of the canard. Neal Fulco James R. Freeman wrote: Dave for Your info. The Quickie and Q2 use a fiberglass build up spar as You will see from the plans. The Q-200 uses a carbon fiber spar. Yes the Quickie canard (front wing) can be removed. Jim "James R. Freeman" wrote in message ... Dave: I found the URL. It is: http://www.finleyweb.net/default.asp?id=141 Jim "Dave Schneider" wrote in message ... after a bit of surfing i found this. Is something like this what you are talking about? http://www.hinkleymall.com/airplane_cd.html There is also this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=26441&item =4510814564&rd=1 Basic question for the Quickie, do the wings disassemble? I'm also looking for techniques for attaching wings. Thanks! Dave "James R. Freeman" wrote in message ... Dave: Take a look at the ruttan wings on a q-1 or q2 it will fit the bill for what you want. There is one site on the web for free downloads of the q2 info but I do not have the URL at hand. Q1 plan can be had on C.D. for less than $10 via EBay. "Dave Schneider" wrote in message ... Can anyone suggest some home built construction sites where they show the process of building a spar for a foam composite wing. I'm confused on how a spar is built for a foam wing. It doesn't seem like the foam itself would provide enough structure to provide a web. It would seem like you'd have to cut the wing foil, cut out the location of the spar, build the spar, and then reinstert that section back into the foam wing. Thanks, Dave |
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Fitzair4 wrote: Bates Engineering has a DOS computer program for designing a wing spar. www.aeroOptimizer.com I have met him and listen to his forums at Oshkosh many times. Larry Fitzgerald About the Bates Engineering DOS programs....I have never used DOS and didn't start "computin" until Windows became the "standard?" Are the programs such that they can have the required info input into standard Excel worksheets? If they can, the spar program would be a great tool to play with in designing an I-beam spar similar to what the Vans aircraft use. Neal |
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No. It is a really crude interface by today's standards. It is a very
sequential menu driven interface. By sequential, I mean that if you choose the wrong base menu item, you have to answer the rest of the sequential prompts until you get back to the main menu. It gets the job done, and that's it. I grew up on DOS so it doesn't bother me too much, but I'd certainly prefer a better interface! I should also say that the license agreement allows you to use the program for something like 5 years after which time you'll have to buy the program again in order to continue to use it. I'm not sure if there is any time bomb in the program that actually prevents you from using it. I suppose I could move my clock ahead and see what happens. wrote in message oups.com... Fitzair4 wrote: Bates Engineering has a DOS computer program for designing a wing spar. www.aeroOptimizer.com I have met him and listen to his forums at Oshkosh many times. Larry Fitzgerald About the Bates Engineering DOS programs....I have never used DOS and didn't start "computin" until Windows became the "standard?" Are the programs such that they can have the required info input into standard Excel worksheets? If they can, the spar program would be a great tool to play with in designing an I-beam spar similar to what the Vans aircraft use. Neal |
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Anybody know of any other programs available for designing spars that
will use the more friendly Excel format? Thanks in advance Neal |
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http://www.continuo.com/marske/perfo...lculations.htm
I would suggest you grab a college-level structures textbook and make sure you understand all the inputs that are used... |
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BTW: I already mentioned this, but Bates Engineering requests that they
verify that your spar design by sending them output from the spar optimizer. My application isn't a life or death situation, but the intended use of this program IS. If I was thinking about building something that actually flew, I think I'd opt for a proven design and construction method over something designed by my inept engineering expertise. :-) "tffy" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.continuo.com/marske/perfo...lculations.htm I would suggest you grab a college-level structures textbook and make sure you understand all the inputs that are used... |
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