New demands for more GA security

("Tom Fleischman" wrote)
Wake up, CJ. Find the hurt little boy inside yourself and get some
help. I'm sure it must be hell for you going through life with so much
hate and anger inside.


He's Mormon and so probably still a little upset that his people never did
get paid for digging that tunnel on the first transcontinental railroad.

BTW, I've got myself a skinny little kid inside me. He's all the time
yelling I'm hungry, eat something, now!! Talk about demonic possession.

Mmm, ice cream, newsgroups, and up past bedtime (...see what I mean)


Montblack

"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Tom Fleischman" wrote)
Wake up, CJ. Find the hurt little boy inside yourself and get some
help. I'm sure it must be hell for you going through life with so much
hate and anger inside.


He's Mormon and so probably still a little upset that his people never did
get paid for digging that tunnel on the first transcontinental railroad.


WHAT?!? We never got paid? I want reparations right now!

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Tom Fleischman" wrote)
Wake up, CJ. Find the hurt little boy inside yourself and get some
help. I'm sure it must be hell for you going through life with so much
hate and anger inside.


He's Mormon and so probably still a little upset that his people never
did
get paid for digging that tunnel on the first transcontinental railroad.


WHAT?!? We never got paid? I want reparations right now!

Now that I think on it, I want reparations for the nine homes my ancestors
were burned out of or were seized by mobs protected by the governments of
New York, Ohio, Missouri, and Illinois. I want reparations for those tarred
and feathered in those places, for those who were whipped and beaten, and
for those who were killed at Hahn's Mill in Missouri. I want reparations for
those who died while fleeing, virtually naked, across the plains of Nebraska
and Iowa in the dead of winter while pursued by forces of the Federal
government and militia from Illinois and Missouri -- even while others were
being forced to fight for those same governments in their illegal war with
Mexico.

I want compensation for Fort Bridger and other supply centers burned to the
ground by the Federal government or which were destroyed when President
Johnston sent an army against my ancestors to quell a rebellion that did not
exist. I want reparations for homes and property seized by the Federal
government in Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho, including thousands of head of
cattle. I want reparations for those ancestors who were disenfranchised on
account of their religious beliefs, forbidden to vote because of what they
believed, not what they practiced. I want reparations for the gold stolen by
illegal squatters after my ancestors discovered it at Sutter's Mill and
other places in California, and reparations for the property that was stolen
by prospectors who just helped themselves to whatever they wanted on their
way to those gold fields, for the women they raped, and for the homes,
wagons, horses, and other property they destroyed.

I want reparations for the modern buildings that are still being vandalized
and destroyed by thugs, for the cost of defending our rights to build
churches and temples being obstructed by corrupt government officials, and
for the physical threats, violence, and harassment we put up with today. I
want reparations for the hate and lies published in vicious tracts and
pamphlets sold in so-called Christian bookstores to this very day.

On the other hand, I really don't want reparations for any of this stuff. It
is tainted money and I would not soil my hands with it. Maybe I get a little
sarcastic and sensitive when people start criticizing religious belief or
even, as some here have suggested, that maybe a little genocide will solve
all the world's problems. Maybe I have my reasons.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:46:18 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in
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Now that I think on it, I want reparations for ...

You overlooked this:
http://frank.kirkman.com/MMM/reopeni...rdemystery.htm

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:46:18 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in
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Now that I think on it, I want reparations for ...

You overlooked this:
http://frank.kirkman.com/MMM/reopeni...rdemystery.htm

You're. I want reparations for the perpetuation of this slander, too.

The actual history of the Mountain Meadows massacre is that a bunch of
Missourians headed to the California gold fields tried to cross southern
Utah in the middle of a drought. Brigham Young had tried to persuade them to
take the safer northern route but they were in a hurry (odd behavior for a
man supposed to be trying to kill them, but conspiracy theorists were never
known for their logic). The Missourians, who bragged about their treatment
of the 'Mormons' in Missouri, quickly ran out of supplies and resorted to
stealing what they needed from local settlers and Indians, most of whom were
on the point of starvation themselves. They killed several Indians in cold
blood and stole their horses, enraging the local Utes and Paiutes. All the
while they bragged about their murders and how they were going to rape
women, etc.

The band was finally attacked by Indians who surrounded the wagon train.
Local settlers, not all of them Mormons, negotiated a cease-fire and then
treacherously slaughtered all the adult members of the group, despite pleas
from Church leaders, including Brigham Young, to let them go. While the
behavior of the local settlers was out and out murder, you have to wonder
just how much any group that was as isolated, persecuted, and hounded as
they were by these people is supposed to take. The perpetrators of the
massacre were tried and convicted and some of them were hanged, which is far
more justice than the mobbers in Missouri and Illinois ever got.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:47:35 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

You're. I want reparations for the perpetuation of this slander, too.

The actual history of the Mountain Meadows massacre is that a bunch of
Missourians headed to the California gold fields tried to cross southern
Utah in the middle of a drought. Brigham Young had tried to persuade them to
take the safer northern route but they were in a hurry (odd behavior for a
man supposed to be trying to kill them, but conspiracy theorists were never
known for their logic). The Missourians, who bragged about their treatment
of the 'Mormons' in Missouri, quickly ran out of supplies and resorted to
stealing what they needed from local settlers and Indians, most of whom were
on the point of starvation themselves. They killed several Indians in cold
blood and stole their horses, enraging the local Utes and Paiutes. All the
while they bragged about their murders and how they were going to rape
women, etc.

The band was finally attacked by Indians who surrounded the wagon train.
Local settlers, not all of them Mormons, negotiated a cease-fire and then
treacherously slaughtered all the adult members of the group, despite pleas
from Church leaders, including Brigham Young, to let them go. While the
behavior of the local settlers was out and out murder, you have to wonder
just how much any group that was as isolated, persecuted, and hounded as
they were by these people is supposed to take. The perpetrators of the
massacre were tried and convicted and some of them were hanged, which is far
more justice than the mobbers in Missouri and Illinois ever got.

Hmmm, your version is distinctly at odds with this one found at
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/meadows3.htm

Brigham Young is not even mentioned as being present.

Corky Scott

I want to reward them. But they didn't do a thorough enough job.

The Bible and Koran are the true weapons of mass destruction.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Now that I think on it, I want reparations for the nine homes my ancestors
were burned out of or were seized by mobs protected by the governments of
New York, Ohio, Missouri, and Illinois. I want reparations for those
tarred
and feathered in those places, for those who were whipped and beaten, and
for those who were killed at Hahn's Mill in Missouri. I want reparations
for
those who died while fleeing, virtually naked, across the plains of
Nebraska
and Iowa in the dead of winter while pursued by forces of the Federal
government and militia from Illinois and Missouri -- even while others
were
being forced to fight for those same governments in their illegal war with
Mexico.

I want compensation for Fort Bridger and other supply centers burned to
the
ground by the Federal government or which were destroyed when President
Johnston sent an army against my ancestors to quell a rebellion that did
not
exist. I want reparations for homes and property seized by the Federal
government in Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho, including thousands of head of
cattle. I want reparations for those ancestors who were disenfranchised on
account of their religious beliefs, forbidden to vote because of what they
believed, not what they practiced. I want reparations for the gold stolen
by
illegal squatters after my ancestors discovered it at Sutter's Mill and
other places in California, and reparations for the property that was
stolen
by prospectors who just helped themselves to whatever they wanted on their
way to those gold fields, for the women they raped, and for the homes,
wagons, horses, and other property they destroyed.

I want reparations for the modern buildings that are still being
vandalized
and destroyed by thugs, for the cost of defending our rights to build
churches and temples being obstructed by corrupt government officials, and
for the physical threats, violence, and harassment we put up with today. I
want reparations for the hate and lies published in vicious tracts and
pamphlets sold in so-called Christian bookstores to this very day.

On the other hand, I really don't want reparations for any of this stuff.
It
is tainted money and I would not soil my hands with it. Maybe I get a
little
sarcastic and sensitive when people start criticizing religious belief or
even, as some here have suggested, that maybe a little genocide will solve
all the world's problems. Maybe I have my reasons.

"mike regish" wrote in message
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I want to reward them. But they didn't do a thorough enough job.

The Bible and Koran are the true weapons of mass destruction.

Don't blame the books. Blame the people abusing the books.

Actually, the books are not being abused at all.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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I want to reward them. But they didn't do a thorough enough job.

The Bible and Koran are the true weapons of mass destruction.

Don't blame the books. Blame the people abusing the books.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:25:15 -0800, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in
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The Bible and Koran are the true weapons of mass destruction.

Don't blame the books. Blame the people abusing the books.

The blame lies with the faithful who are willing to suspend rational
thought and be lead to irrational acts as puppets of those
disenfranchised despots terrified of their loss of power in a
globalized world. As long as there are ready supplies of illiterate,
hungry, desperate people, there will be those eager to exploit them as
tools to operate the weapons greedy dealers supply against humanity in
the vaine hope of gaining influence in their destaines.

Until the world's people truly embrace the principle of "turn the
other cheak", the destablizing policy of "an eye for an eye" will
inexorably tend toward escalation of hostility among men.