Tomcat question

"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote in message
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Dave in San Diego wrote:
If the IFR probe won't retract, what's the usual reason, and what other
effects will that failure have on other systems, specifically those
associated with landing. Got asked that on another forum. Relates to a
segment in this video:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/theairforcefun.html

Ignore the fact that the moron poster mistook this for AF stuff.

Dave in San Diego

Never seen one that didn't but it was hydraulic/electrical. perhaps a
blown cb might cause it to stay out. Airspeed limits(350 kts??), need to
trim left rudder is all.

We had a F-124 come back with a basket stuck on the probe..when called
the ball'basketball', landed, pried it off.

Think the pilot had a new callsign-Zorro'...

I must plead ignorance, what is an F-124?

Red

"Red Rider" wrote in message
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I must plead ignorance, what is an F-124?


Probably F-14 typed by someone with fat fingers.

"Red Rider" wrote:

"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote

We had a F-124 come back with a basket stuck on the probe..when called
the ball'basketball', landed, pried it off.

I must plead ignorance, what is an F-124?

The little known, and highly inefficient for any mission, "fat
finger" variant of the F-14.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

Red Rider wrote:
"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote in message
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Dave in San Diego wrote:

If the IFR probe won't retract, what's the usual reason, and what other
effects will that failure have on other systems, specifically those
associated with landing. Got asked that on another forum. Relates to a
segment in this video:

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/theairforcefun.html

Ignore the fact that the moron poster mistook this for AF stuff.

Dave in San Diego

Never seen one that didn't but it was hydraulic/electrical. perhaps a
blown cb might cause it to stay out. Airspeed limits(350 kts??), need to
trim left rudder is all.

We had a F-124 come back with a basket stuck on the probe..when called
the ball'basketball', landed, pried it off.

Think the pilot had a new callsign-Zorro'...


I must plead ignorance, what is an F-124?

Red



C'mon, not all of us can tipe....

"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote in message
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Red Rider wrote:
"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote in message
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Dave in San Diego wrote:

If the IFR probe won't retract, what's the usual reason, and what other
effects will that failure have on other systems, specifically those
associated with landing. Got asked that on another forum. Relates to a
segment in this video:

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/theairforcefun.html

Ignore the fact that the moron poster mistook this for AF stuff.

Dave in San Diego

Never seen one that didn't but it was hydraulic/electrical. perhaps a
blown cb might cause it to stay out. Airspeed limits(350 kts??), need to
trim left rudder is all.

We had a F-124 come back with a basket stuck on the probe..when called
the ball'basketball', landed, pried it off.

Think the pilot had a new callsign-Zorro'...


I must plead ignorance, what is an F-124?

Red



C'mon, not all of us can tipe....

I am probably more embarrassed at not recognizing it as a typo than you are
at not being an accomplished typist.

Red

"Red Rider" wrote:

"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote

Red Rider wrote:

"Phormer Phighter Phlyer" wrote

We had a F-124 come back with a basket stuck on the probe..when called
the ball'basketball', landed, pried it off.

I must plead ignorance, what is an F-124?

C'mon, not all of us can tipe....

I am probably more embarrassed at not recognizing it as a typo than you are
at not being an accomplished typist.

Don't be, Red; you slim-fingered devil you.

In the old, manual typewriter days, hitting side-by-side keys
would result in only one, whichever got there first, getting
typed, or a jam of the typebars with nothing getting typed.

Electrics were iffy, they'd either emulate the manuals, or go on
strike. Disremember what selectrics and their ball did, USMC
never gave me one, and by the time I went civvie, the old
dedicated word-processors were the vogue in the beltway bandit
world.

It is only the modern computer keyboard which will slavishly put
both of the characters your fat finger hits onto the screen/into
the file.

All hail IBM for this technodigital advance.

[Bet Bill Gates is happy it can't be blamed on him.]
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

I don't remember if the Tomcat had the same issues as the Hornet with
shutting down an engine and losing the ability to extend the refueling
probe. If the aircraft had to shut down an engine, the pilot would extend
the probe prior to shutting it down. This allowed the aircraft to in flight
refuel if the pilot couldn't land the first couple of times. If the pilot
didn't extend it and couldn't land, the barricade was the next step if no
divert was available.
-Moe

"Dave in San Diego" wrote in message
. ..
If the IFR probe won't retract, what's the usual reason, and what other
effects will that failure have on other systems, specifically those
associated with landing. Got asked that on another forum. Relates to a
segment in this video:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/theairforcefun.html

Ignore the fact that the moron poster mistook this for AF stuff.

Dave in San Diego

In article JHm0e.9499$191.8337@trnddc02, "MICHAEL OLEARY"
wrote:

I don't remember if the Tomcat had the same issues as the Hornet with
shutting down an engine and losing the ability to extend the refueling
probe. If the aircraft had to shut down an engine, the pilot would extend
the probe prior to shutting it down. This allowed the aircraft to in flight
refuel if the pilot couldn't land the first couple of times. If the pilot
didn't extend it and couldn't land, the barricade was the next step if no
divert was available.

Can you shut down an F-14 engine inflight?
I thought the asymmetric thrust was a particular problem for the Tom.
(I guess you CAN shut it down, but should you...without getting out?)

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

"Harry Andreas" wrote in message
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In article JHm0e.9499$191.8337@trnddc02, "MICHAEL OLEARY"
wrote:

I don't remember if the Tomcat had the same issues as the Hornet with
shutting down an engine and losing the ability to extend the refueling
probe. If the aircraft had to shut down an engine, the pilot would
extend
the probe prior to shutting it down. This allowed the aircraft to in
flight
refuel if the pilot couldn't land the first couple of times. If the
pilot
didn't extend it and couldn't land, the barricade was the next step if no
divert was available.

Can you shut down an F-14 engine inflight?
I thought the asymmetric thrust was a particular problem for the Tom.
(I guess you CAN shut it down, but should you...without getting out?)

Only done it a couple hundred times. It's a requirement during a post
maintenance check flight (albeit not all profiles). Also had a single
engine due to fuel control failure. Asymmetric thrust is only an issue slow
and at higher than prescribed angle of attack.

Do you really think that jettisoning the aircraft is the preferred
alternative to flying a single-engine approach?

R / John

Harry Andreas wrote:


Can you shut down an F-14 engine inflight?
I thought the asymmetric thrust was a particular problem for the Tom.
(I guess you CAN shut it down, but should you...without getting out?)


Sure, did it all the time on PMCF..As long as yer not max blower,
shutting down an engine is no big deal. Even when in blower, and ya
snuff one, as long as you keep the nose below 10' of pitch and 'step on
the good engine', you will be allright.