out-gassing of garment soils in deep space?

Frank van der Hulst wrote:
pete wrote:
Make all the clothes out of teflon, then roast 'em at 300C to clean
'em.

Sheeshh... You're a *million* miles from any peeping tom... go nude!

;-)

Cute, but like I said in the original thread, there are sanitary
reasons for considering at least minimal clothing, not to mention
protecting the skin from the item being worked on (tool slippage, hot
liquid splahes, abrasion, etc).


It would also be interesting to be able to qunatify how much the
clothing reduces dispersal of dead skin cells and loose hair shafts. We
might end up asking them to wear watch caps in addition to uniforms!

And the crew, for the near future at least, will be taking the peeping
toms along via downlink!


/dps

And the crew, for the near future at least, will be
taking the peeping toms along via downlink!

I think the people who decide whether a Mars flight gets funded, will
tell you that the downlink of the show, is 99% of what made it
sell-able.....

Is there any real reason why the Mars flight couldn't be funded by TV
networks and product endorsements? These two forces do a rather good
job of carrying on the charade that Professional and College Sports,
and the Olympics, are about athletics....

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Meanwhile, over in a Mars discussion board, the question has been
raised about whether one can clean garments during an inter-panetary
mission, just by exposing them to the vacuum of deep space.
Let us presume that the major soils are body oils of the groin and
axillary areas.

They could make clothes edible. Then you could eat them after you are done
wearing them. Save all that water with washing clothes.
They make paper clothes. I'm sure they can make clothes out of grain or soy
that you can eat.
On the other hand I don't see why they just can't work naked and take a
sponge bath daily. You don't need clothes in a controled environment. All it
needs is a change in attitude. Clothes are a learned thing. Not a natural or
necessary thing. Modesty is learned and unnecessary.

Nog wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
Meanwhile, over in a Mars discussion board, the question has been
raised about whether one can clean garments during an inter-panetary
mission, just by exposing them to the vacuum of deep space.
Let us presume that the major soils are body oils of the groin and
axillary areas.

They could make clothes edible. Then you could eat them after you are done
wearing them. Save all that water with washing clothes.
They make paper clothes. I'm sure they can make clothes out of grain or soy
that you can eat.


Now, stop and think about what you're saying...do you really want to
*ingest* material that's too dirty to wear? Think about the basis of the
insult; "Eat my shorts."


On the other hand I don't see why they just can't work naked and take a
sponge bath daily. You don't need clothes in a controled environment. All it
needs is a change in attitude. Clothes are a learned thing. Not a natural or
necessary thing. Modesty is learned and unnecessary.


Remember this, next time someone brings up sex in space (and I mean
crews, not tourists) again.

And...what becomes of the sponges?


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You know what to remove, to reply....

In article ,
Joann Evans wrote:
Nog wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
Meanwhile, over in a Mars discussion board, the question has been
raised about whether one can clean garments during an inter-panetary
mission, just by exposing them to the vacuum of deep space.
Let us presume that the major soils are body oils of the groin and
axillary areas.

They could make clothes edible. Then you could eat them after you are
done
wearing them. Save all that water with washing clothes.
They make paper clothes. I'm sure they can make clothes out of grain or
soy
that you can eat.


Now, stop and think about what you're saying...do you really want to
*ingest* material that's too dirty to wear? Think about the basis of the
insult; "Eat my shorts."


On the other hand I don't see why they just can't work naked and take a
sponge bath daily. You don't need clothes in a controled environment.
All it
needs is a change in attitude. Clothes are a learned thing. Not a
natural or
necessary thing. Modesty is learned and unnecessary.


Remember this, next time someone brings up sex in space (and I mean
crews, not tourists) again.

And...what becomes of the sponges?

I'd be more worried about the bits that sluff off getting
into circuits and stuff. Take a look inside a PC that has
been setting around in a large, airy space in a home.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

In article , Nog wrote:
On the other hand I don't see why they just can't work naked and take a
sponge bath daily. You don't need clothes in a controled environment.

Apart from wanting some protection for delicate body parts, *pockets* are
immensely useful even in a controlled environment. If anything, they're
more useful in free fall than on Earth: small objects don't just stay
where you put them unless restrained somehow, and it's less convenient to
just carry things because moving around requires using your hands as well
as your feet.

All it needs is a change in attitude... Modesty is learned and unnecessary.

In principle, yes. In practice, unlearning such attitudes is not easy;
people are not happy about it and won't do it without urgent need. And
given that you need pockets anyway...
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-- George Herbert |

Henry Spencer wrote:
In principle, yes. In practice, unlearning such attitudes is not easy;
people are not happy about it and won't do it without urgent need. And
given that you need pockets anyway...

Velcro hooks on the objects... hairy limbs to attach to. Problem solved.

In sci.space.tech Frank van der Hulst wrote:
Henry Spencer wrote:
In principle, yes. In practice, unlearning such attitudes is not
easy; people are not happy about it and won't do it without urgent
need. And given that you need pockets anyway...

Velcro hooks on the objects... hairy limbs to attach to. Problem
solved.

The follicularly (sp) challenged should not be excluded so from the
opportunity to travel in space.



rick jones
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these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway...
feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH...

In sci.physics, Rick Jones

wrote
on Fri, 27 May 2005 17:09:14 GMT
:
In sci.space.tech Frank van der Hulst wrote:
Henry Spencer wrote:
In principle, yes. In practice, unlearning such attitudes is not
easy; people are not happy about it and won't do it without urgent
need. And given that you need pockets anyway...

Velcro hooks on the objects... hairy limbs to attach to. Problem
solved.

The follicularly (sp) challenged should not be excluded so from the
opportunity to travel in space.



rick jones

Wouldn't the hair foul the hooks after awhile?

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It's still legal to go .sigless.

Nog wrote:
Modesty is learned and unnecessary.

very interesting hypothesis.

can you support it with any experimental evidence?

Or is it an axiom.... in YOUR mind?