Here's evidence why the gov't assholes overreacted.

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
John T wrote:

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission"
or "fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

I don't know that it's true, of course, but I've read several times that
the
old Soviet Union had managed to build "suitcase" bombs. Of course, that
addresses more volume than mass, but I'd guess that these would be
designed
to weigh as little as possible.

Still, and aircraft would be a poor way to deliver a nuke into DC when
cars,
vans, trucks, and USPS deliveries are all available alternatives. If
there
were a serious interest in security, these would all be kept out.

Yes. And anyone with the resources to acquire a suitcase nuke would have
the resources to use a more reliable delivery method.

moo

John T wrote:

What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh?

According to stuff posted in another thread, about 71 pounds.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

"usedtobe" wrote in message
...
even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb

So what? If you can get "a small nuclear bomb" to the airport and load it
in a C150, you could just drive it to your target. Cars stream into DC
every day, but no one panics about those for some reason.

How many 150 lb atom bombs are missing and/or are constructible inside this
country today?

If this bomb were readably available we would see/hear them going off all
over Israel everyday/week/month.


"usedtobe" wrote in message
...
even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:21:03 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"R.L." wrote in message
.com...
It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. [...]

That the evidence you come up with?

Come on...surely you can do better than pointing to the transponder. How
about IT WAS A FRIGGIN' CESSNA 150!

Practically everything security-related that followed 9/11 has been an
over-reaction.

R.L. wrote:
It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. Why on F*g earth
would a
pilot on a supposed suicide-bomb mission bother to have his damned
transponder on, much less squawk 1200 while penetrating the ADIZ?
Doesn't
make sense.

Maybe to not call attention to themselves for as long as they can.

Our government is a mob of cowards, trampling the Constitution in a
stampede to ensure their personal safety... I have to believe that the
original signers of the constitution, most of whom personally led
charges into the smoking muzzles of british guns, would gag on what is
happening today... They would spit on the yellow bellied congressmen
who are allowing this to go on... The frantic flight yesterday of the
people in the Whitehouse and the Congress only validates the beliefs of
those who are willing to die for their cause, that we are weak,
godless, and have surrendered the right to exist...

When a society reaches the point that it is willing to put a 19 year
old kid in a humvee in a foreign country and order him to drive down a
road where he will be shot at, or blown up, while at the same time the
50 year olds who put him in that humvee are fleeing like rabbits
because someone in a spam can Cessna got within ten miles of them, then
it is clear that 'insurgents' have won the war even if the battles
still go on...

I feel sick, I have to stop now...

denny

When a society reaches the point that it is willing to put a 19 year
old kid in a humvee in a foreign country and order him to drive down a

road where he will be shot at, or blown up, while at the same time the

50 year olds who put him in that humvee are fleeing like rabbits
because someone in a spam can Cessna got within ten miles of them,
then
it is clear that 'insurgents' have won the war even if the battles
still go on...

So I understand you didn't care for FDR and Truman for the same reason?
How many of those 50 year olds knew it was a C150? None! The capitol
police were running around and shouting as though a nuclear warhead was
on its way. Lets see if and how the authoritys ask how it is the
nations capital was disrupted for such a small aircraft. Also how is
it that a small plane can get withen 3 miles. Surely a jetliner flying
almost 5 times faster could have made it all the way.

....as for the smallest nuclear fission bomb made by the US, here's a web
page with some nice photographs of the Davy Crockett (and other
information).

http://www.brook.edu/FP/projects/nucwcost/davyc.htm

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

On 12 May 2005 07:04:35 -0700, "Sport Pilot" wrote
in .com::

Also how is it that a small plane can get withen 3 miles.

Apparently the ADIZ and Prohibited airspace only keeps the law abiding
out, not the sinister and stupid.

Surely a jetliner flying almost 5 times faster could have made it all the way.

That is a reasonable assumption given the facts in this case.

Denny wrote:
The frantic flight yesterday of the
people in the Whitehouse and the Congress only validates the beliefs
of
those who are willing to die for their cause, that we are weak,
godless, and have surrendered the right to exist...

Gimme a break man. From their perspective, all they knew is that there
appeared to be an imminent threat. What possible good would have come
from just standing around in the capitol building waiting to be
possibly obliterated. It's not like they could have fought back.

There are situations where people running away can be called cowardly
and weak, but this ain't one of them. To sit there and wait when
there's not one thing that they could've personally done that would've
helped would have just been stupid.