medical question: childhood heart murmur

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

Dave S wrote:

Congrats Mort... thats my first mispelling someone has kicked back on me
in over a year.


Thanks for playing.



We ame to pleeze.



My first response, that I didn't send.. WAS a "hooked on phonics" barb..
I can see we had the same idea.

Dave

wrote in message
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1. does the pilot divulge to FAA said childhood murmur?
2. if so, to whom? AME? Oklahoma City?

There's no obligation to do so before the next AME exam.

3. does he wait until next exam (couple of years) or do so now?
4. If going to divulge, should he go get fancy/expensive tests *first*
or let FAA or AME ask for said tests?

If the condition only occurred during infancy, the pilot might well forget
about it again by the time of his next exam. You're only required to report
what you remember.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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If the condition only occurred during infancy, the pilot might well forget
about it again by the time of his next exam. You're only required to
report what you remember.

That's an interesting take on the regulations. Where'd you get that from?

As far as I know, you're required to report everything. If you can't
remember, you'd better keep records. As I get older the "have you ever..."
checkboxes are getting filled up, with a lot of them being "previously
reported". I keep my copy of the previous application so I don't miss
anything (thankfully the medical form includes a carbon copy for the
application now).

If you can cite the rule that says you only have to report what you
remember, sure would save me a lot of trouble.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
If the condition only occurred during infancy, the pilot might well
forget about it again by the time of his next exam. You're only required
to report what you remember.

That's an interesting take on the regulations. Where'd you get that from?

As far as I know, you're required to report everything. If you can't
remember, you'd better keep records. As I get older the "have you
ever..." checkboxes are getting filled up, with a lot of them being
"previously reported". I keep my copy of the previous application so I
don't miss anything (thankfully the medical form includes a carbon copy
for the application now).

If you can cite the rule that says you only have to report what you
remember, sure would save me a lot of trouble.

Pete

The bottom of the form says, "... are true to the best of my knowledge..."
so he was OK until he was reminded of the problem.

I think I have an idea for a T-Shirt for pilots to where to family
gatherings.

"Feel free to tell me how cute I was as a baby just not how sick I was."

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:aKrIe.3509$_t.1964@okepread01...
"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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You're only required to report what you remember.

If you can cite the rule that says you only have to report what you
remember, sure would save me a lot of trouble.

The bottom of the form says, "... are true to the best of my knowledge..."

Right. If the FAA wanted our medical reporting to be more rigorous, they
could require us to keep a running log of reportable medical events, just as
we're required to log e.g. sufficient flight experience for currency, rather
than just relying on memory if challenged. But we're not required to keep
such a medical log (though of course we can if we want to).

Obviously, we could not credibly claim to have forgotten recent major
developments, if later questioned about them. But it's certainly plausible
to forget about an early-childhood heart murmur.

--Gary

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
[snip]
"Feel free to tell me how cute I was as a baby just not how sick I was."


"I have no specific recollection"

This one seems to work.


Montblack

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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The bottom of the form says, "... are true to the best of my knowledge..."
so he was OK until he was reminded of the problem.

Hmmm...well, the FAA isn't well-known for their propensity to allow "I
forgot" as an excuse. I'm looking for something a little more concrete than
the signature line of the form, thanks.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:aKrIe.3509$_t.1964@okepread01...
The bottom of the form says, "... are true to the best of my
knowledge..." so he was OK until he was reminded of the problem.

Hmmm...well, the FAA isn't well-known for their propensity to allow "I
forgot" as an excuse. I'm looking for something a little more concrete
than the signature line of the form, thanks.


How could someone be required to report something they have no knowledge of?

Peter Duniho wrote:

Hmmm...well, the FAA isn't well-known for their propensity to allow "I
forgot" as an excuse.

True, but in this case, the pilot apparently was too young at the time to even
remember that the problem existed (the OP says he was an infant). If it even
*did* exist. All we have here is relatives' possibly incorrect memories of a
possibly incorrect diagnosis of a possibly non-existent condition that required
no treatment and does not exist today. "I was unaware of this" is vastly
different from "I forgot."

If I were inclined to report it (and, as I said, I would not do so), I would
first get my hands on the examining doctor's old records and see what actually
happened. If I couldn't get copies of those records, neither can anyone else,
and it "didn't happen."

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:38:54 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

. You're only required to
report what you remember.

That's an interesting take on the regulations. Where'd you get that from?

How could you possibly be required to report something you don't
remember?


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