Flying over Canada VFR

In a previous article, "Longworth" said:
durations. We have not received any bills from NavCanada. I recalled
reading some older posts that the $15 fee applied for aircraft landing
in Canada.

Come to think of it, I think you're right - I recall that the US
threatened to charge Canadian overflights of the US in retaliation, so
NavCanada backed down.

I'm in a club, and the planes I fly land in Canada a lot so I wouldn't
notice whether an overflight was subject to the charge because we end up
paying the fee every quarter anyway.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Did you know that "Gullible" is not in the dictionary?

You need to be talking to some ATC while you're crossing the border. It's
easiest if you get flight following the whole way. NavCanada will send
the aircraft owner a bill for $15, but will cover the aircraft for the
whole quarter, if you decide to do it again.

Not necessarily.
I fly from Columbus Ohio to Port Huron Michigan. Heading 005 degrees.
I go feet wet at Sandusky Ohio, cross between Middle Bass and Kelly's
Islands; fly west of Pelee Island and go feet dry at Leamington Ontario.
I then go feet wet again at the south shore of Lake St Claire and feet
dry at the mouth of the channel leading to Lake Huron.
If I go IFR or use flight following, I never talk to a Canadian
controller (Columbus, Mansfield, Cleveland, Detriot, Selfrige). Or, VFR,
I may not talk to anyone.
No ADIZ flight plan, not NavCanada fees.

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "B. Jensen" said:
I have a question regarding flying over Canada VFR without landing in
Canada. For instance, if I takeoff from Saginaw, MI and fly VFR to
upstate NY, I would fly in Canadian airspace. If I don't land in
Canada, and since my flight originated in the US, what requirements, if
any, are there for doing this? Is a VFR flight plan required, do you
need a FCC radio license for your aircraft since you would be
transmitting in Canadian airspace, and are there any ATC fees to pay for
using Canadian airspace?

You need to be talking to some ATC while you're crossing the border. It's
easiest if you get flight following the whole way. NavCanada will send
the aircraft owner a bill for $15, but will cover the aircraft for the
whole quarter, if you decide to do it again.

Nobody is going to board your plane in mid-air to look for a radio
license.

The last question is, what would be the difference if I did this same
flight IFR?

Well, it makes it easier to be talking to somebody as you cross the
border. Otherwise, no change.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
When C++ is your hammer, everything looks like a thumb.
-- Steven M. Haflich

I have flown through Canadian airspace from the US to AK numerous times
(always IFR) and never recieved a bill for it. I flew from Europe to the
US, which involved three landings in Canada and I was billed byNav Canada
that time. I think that you are only billed if you land in Canada.

Mike
MU-2

In a previous article, "Mike Rapoport" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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easiest if you get flight following the whole way. NavCanada will send
the aircraft owner a bill for $15, but will cover the aircraft for the
whole quarter, if you decide to do it again.
that time. I think that you are only billed if you land in Canada.

Yes, I corrected that in a later post.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
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"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

"B. Jensen" wrote in message
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I have a question regarding flying over Canada VFR without landing in
Canada. For instance, if I takeoff from Saginaw, MI and fly VFR to upstate
NY, I would fly in Canadian airspace. If I don't land in Canada, and since
my flight originated in the US, what requirements, if any, are there for
doing this? Is a VFR flight plan required, do you need a FCC radio license
for your aircraft since you would be transmitting in Canadian airspace, and
are there any ATC fees to pay for using Canadian airspace?

The last question is, what would be the difference if I did this same
flight IFR?

As you cross an international border you need to file a flight plan even if
you are not landing.

If you were doing it properly and planning for every eventuality you might
treat the trip as if you were landing and ensure that you had all the
necessary documentation.

I recently flew from Madison to Niagara Falls IFR in a 172 and I ensured I
had the Canadian issued low level chart and instrument approaches. I never
needed them but there was for a few minutes a thought that we might have to
land to avoid some nasty weather and having the charts gave some comfort.

Later at Oshkosh I visited the NAV Canada stand and they told me there would
be no nav charges because I did not land.

BJ,

You might try checking out the AOPA website or calling them. I've
never flown to Canada or over it, but I do know that AOPA advises
people of non-US flights regularly.

-Malcolm Teas