Any other hotels near or on airports?

Are they close enough to the city to be able to attract non-flying guests?

Pretty much. My boss and his wife spent their anniversary there after
driving to Fredricksburg. When I've mentioned it in non-aviation circles,
I'm surprised at the number of folks who have heard of it. Of course,
Fredricksburg is a pretty big getaway destination for the DFW crowd.

Carl

The town is a BIG antique tourist trap. That and "Bed and Breakfast"
type places. Its also less than an hour drive away from the LBJ ranch. I
would actually have to say I haven't heard much of anything in the way
of fly-ins there. I'm guessing its mostly vacationers staying there.

I have to admit, I've not been to fredricksburg since this place opened.
I used to have family there, before they relocated.

Dave

Jay Honeck wrote:
The Hangar Hotel looks like a GREAT place to visit.

Yes.. Fredricksburg.. less than an hours DRIVE from Kerrville, home of the
Mooney factory.. West of Austin, Northwest of San Antonio, and close to
Luckenbach.


Any feel on how they're doing? I've not been able to get a grasp on what
their main source of guests/income is, outside of fly-ins.

Are they close enough to the city to be able to attract non-flying guests?

"Dave S" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well,

Just for examples of things that are out there.. Fredericksburg Texas
has a hotel on field. http://www.hangarhotel.com/ . The town is a bed and
breakfast haven, and the main drag is like a giant flea market/antique
show. No colleges. Admiral Nimitz Museum is there.

Galveston, Texas has a field that is capable of handing airliners, has
an ILS, has a waterpark being built on-site, has the Lone Star Flight
Museum, has Moody Gardens Hotel and Convention Center adjacent to the
field (but its not aviation themed). The city focuses on the "family
factor" with regards to spring break and has an alcohol ban on the
majority of beaches. There is a Mardi Gras celebration there that is a
distant second to what used to occur in New O. There are several colleges
in the vicinity, but none are in NCAA athletics. Vulnerabilities include
coastal location with the hurricane risk. Also, 50% of the surrounding
area is water.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KGLS

New Braunsfels, Texas is a VERY popular tourist area in Texas, with no
hotel on field. There are a few nearby. The field is a few miles from
town, but not in the boonies by any stretch. The draw of this town is a
historical spot called "Gruene" that is shops, antiques and some wonderful
riverfront dining. The REAL draw, however, is the summer "toobing"
industry. The Guadeluper rive meanders through 20 miles of canyons and
hills downstream of Canyon Lake. People come by the thousands to ride the
river. San Antonio is 30 miles south (large town). San Marcos is 20 or so
miles to the north, and is home to Texas State University (formerly
Southwest Texas State University). I go to New Braunsfels annually to semi
annually. The Southwest Regional Flyin was held at New Braunsfels a few
years ago, and now is being held at Hondo, 40-50 miles to the south. I
would forsee good bookings on that weekend by pilots (stay at the hotel,
fly to the flyin - hotels are scarce in Hondo). I would gather that you
would have good bookings most summers of the year by general public due to
the toobing (innertubing/rafting). A few miles off the interstate as well.

Just some things that I could come up with.
Dave



How about the Sandpiper Inn at KTFW? I found this page,
http://www.scogginblue.com/B/tx/fortworth/80sai showing that it is/was for
sale. Never stayed there, so I have no idea of what it's like.

("C. Massey" wrote)
How about the Sandpiper Inn at KTFW? I found this page,
http://www.scogginblue.com/B/tx/fortworth/80sai


Sandpiper Airport Inn for Sale
Fort Worth, Texas (KTFW)

Price:$2,000,000 all cash at closing
Reduced to $1,600,000
Number of Units: 80
Room Revenue: The property has been closed since 2001.
The owner represents historical revenues in the $500,000 to $600,000 range
prior to closing.


Buy it for $1.5M
Condo out 75 (of 80) rooms into 25 units. (3 rooms per condo)
Sell each "Airport-Condo" for $160,000 = $4M

25 units x $60K(!!!) conversion costs = $1.5M more dollars.

In your pocket = $1M net. More if you can keep down the condo conversion
costs, the initial price, get more per condo, etc, etc.

You're left with an airport B&B, or just 5 rooms for whatever, a restaurant,
3.5 acres of leased land, plus you still have 1,200 square feet for your
digs or rent it out for office space.

The lease is $1,600 month = $65 per condo owner.

There, that was easy enough. Out for my 3 mile walk now. 52F.


Montblack

The lease is $1,600 month = $65 per condo owner.

Except we do not know the terms and conditions of the lease agreement...

OK, dream big. The east/south side of Oshkosh airport is a lot of farmland.
Build your OWN "EAA friendly" hotel unit by unit and see what happens.

Jim

In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:

OK, dream big. The east/south side of Oshkosh airport is a lot of farmland.
Build your OWN "EAA friendly" hotel unit by unit and see what happens.

EAA will tell the City of Oshkosh that Wittman Airport needs the land
for future expansion to accommodate AirVenture.
Said land will be taken by means of eminant domain.

OK, dream big. The east/south side of Oshkosh airport is a lot of
farmland. Build your OWN "EAA friendly" hotel unit by unit and see what
happens.

Trouble is, the OTHER 51 weeks per year, the hotel has to survive.

Can't live on one week of biz per year. Not unless you charge, well, what
he Hilton charges!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:30:25 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
R1u2f.416802$x96.151712@attbi_s72::

1. A small-to-medium hotel on, or adjacent to, an airport.
2. The airport must be very close to the city that it serves. No
"out-in-the-boonies" airports, please.
3. The city must have another attraction that creates hotel business.

The Santa Barbara Airport is located adjacent to University of
California at Santa Barbara. There is a low-budget motel located on
the field: http://www.pilothousemotel.com/
http://www.us-rooms.com/usmem/15401.htm

That place is (IMHO) a prime candidate for a radical upgrade - kind of
run down, but in
a really prime location (walking distance to the beach and University).
Other than the
occasional rainstorm, Santa Barbara has generally good weather in the
winter - lots
of sunny days, temps in the 50s and 60s. Check on the Airport Master
Plan, though -
they may have something else in mind for the space.

David Johnson