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Old November 3rd 05, 08:38 PM
Peter Duniho
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
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.Blueskies. wrote:

So who has a cell phone?


Thank you! I was beginning to think I'm the only one without one.


Nope. You're not. There might only be three of us, but the number is
definitely greater than one.


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Old November 3rd 05, 09:17 PM
Kyler Laird
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".Blueskies." writes:


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message ...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!


So who has a cell phone?


....and how would putting your cell phone number on a flight
plan help in the event that the flight plan actually has to
be used for its intended purpose?

Can it just be left blank?

--kyler
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Old November 3rd 05, 09:47 PM
Marco Leon
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Well, I was responding to the post about the fear of having the wife getting
histerical because of the call from the FSS. I am assuming (maybe
incorrectly) that the FSS will attempt to call you cell number more than
once if they don't get you. After all, that's the only phone number on the
flight plan.

A freind of mine once forgot to close his VFR flight plan landing at an
uncontrolled field with only a payphone for "facilities." The FSS wound up
calling the town's public works maintenance department to verify he was on
the ground. Leaving his cell number would have probably averted that
situation.

Marco Leon

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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".Blueskies." writes:


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message

...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!


So who has a cell phone?


...and how would putting your cell phone number on a flight
plan help in the event that the flight plan actually has to
be used for its intended purpose?

Can it just be left blank?

--kyler




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Old November 2nd 05, 10:21 PM
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can
just here the phone call.

MY WIFE: Hello
FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet?
MY WIFE: No
FSS: OK Thanks

My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing
into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule.


Gig,

That's my take on this too. IMO, it's "uber efficient" when dealing with a
bug-smashing C172 just out for a breakfast run like I was this morning.

Kind of scared me at first.

Jay


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Old November 3rd 05, 12:16 AM
Peter R.
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Jay Beckman wrote:

That's my take on this too. IMO, it's "uber efficient" when dealing with a
bug-smashing C172 just out for a breakfast run like I was this morning.


Do you file a VFR flight plan for all of your VFR flights (excluding
pattern work, of course)?

After a few calls from FSS when I forgot to close my VFR flight plan, I
sided with many in this group who advocated only filing a VFR FP when
flying out of radar coverage which, in my case, only applied when I was
flying up to the Adirondack mountains of NY state.

In all other cases, I rationalized that flying with flight following in
radar coverage negated the value of a VFR flight plan.

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Old November 3rd 05, 12:35 AM
Jay Honeck
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In all other cases, I rationalized that flying with flight following in
radar coverage negated the value of a VFR flight plan.


Agree 100%.

When flying in areas that have radar coverage -- and controllers who are
actually willing to provide Flight Following, which is virtually everywhere
in the Midwest outside of Chicago -- VFR flight plans are simply not worth
the bother.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 9th 05, 03:14 PM
Tom
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Now I find myself agreeing with Jay Honeck, what's the world coming to?


John


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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In all other cases, I rationalized that flying with flight following in
radar coverage negated the value of a VFR flight plan.


Agree 100%.

When flying in areas that have radar coverage -- and controllers who are
actually willing to provide Flight Following, which is virtually
everywhere in the Midwest outside of Chicago -- VFR flight plans are
simply not worth the bother.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old November 3rd 05, 12:53 AM
Jay Beckman
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:

That's my take on this too. IMO, it's "uber efficient" when dealing with
a
bug-smashing C172 just out for a breakfast run like I was this morning.


Do you file a VFR flight plan for all of your VFR flights (excluding
pattern work, of course)?


I do whenever I intend to go off over the mountains (which is just about any
flight that takes me out of the Phoenix valley area.)

Also, the flying club to which I belong requires that a flight plan be filed
for trips over 75nm.

After a few calls from FSS when I forgot to close my VFR flight plan, I
sided with many in this group who advocated only filing a VFR FP when
flying out of radar coverage which, in my case, only applied when I was
flying up to the Adirondack mountains of NY state.


I haven't brain cramped and forgotten to call (yet) so dunno what to say
there.

In all other cases, I rationalized that flying with flight following in
radar coverage negated the value of a VFR flight plan.


Since it's on a workload permitting basis, what happens if "center" can't or
won't take you for flight following?

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ


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Old November 3rd 05, 01:05 AM
Peter R.
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Jay Beckman wrote:

Since it's on a workload permitting basis, what happens if "center" can't or
won't take you for flight following?


I suspected you might toss out that scenario.

Again, in an area of radar coverage without FF (due to workload), it would
be 121.50 and 7700 on the transponder if I didn't know the nearest ATC
facility, or "Mayday" on a familiar frequency.

In the interest of full disclosure, I also carry a GPS-equipped personal
locator beacon. Given what you fly over, you might want to consider this
purchase, too, if you haven't already.

--
Peter
























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Old November 3rd 05, 07:01 AM
Ron Lee
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In all other cases, I rationalized that flying with flight following in
radar coverage negated the value of a VFR flight plan.
--
Peter


I concur. In 800 hours of VFR flying in three years I have filed one
flight plan. But I use flight following on cross country flights.

Ron Lee
 




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