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Here you go again Derek, not only a briliant designer of gliders for
training (I am sure the design teams of all major glider manufacturers
are kicking them selves for not thinking of those 10 points first.) but
now you reveal an exceptional grasp of history.

Derek Copeland wrote:
At 04:24 12 January 2006, Gk wrote:

- You're also known for selling your allies to, for
instance Stalin,


I assume that you are refering to Poland, Czechoslovakia
and the other Eastern European countries that got stuck
on the Russian side of the Iron Curtain after WW2.
I should point out that we (the British) declared war
on Hitler's Germany in support of Poland and that Winston
Churchill did his best to get it returned to being
an independent country at the end of the war.

And perhaps you are conveniently forgetting the fact that Neville
Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to occupy the 'Sudetenland' despite a
previous treaty with Czechoslovakia, foolishly declaring that he just
obtained 100 years of peace for Europe.

Unfortunately
it had been over-run by the Soviet Army, possession
is nine points of the law, and they weren't prepared
to give it up. Also the Yanks didn't want to support
any further war as they had achieved their objective
of defeating the Axis powers, so that was that - fait
accompli to Josph Stalin!

Wow, what a briliant analysis of a complex situatiation - in less then
100 words. Historians who wrote books on the topic must be furious for
wasting all that time.


What this proves is that wars very often don't give
the desired results, even if you win them. George W.
Bush's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, far from
defeating terrorism, has only stoked up even more hatred
of the West and more terrorism.

So are you suggesting that that there already was a lot of hatred? If
so, then a bit more may be of no consequence.

Haven't the USA learned
any lessons from Korea, Vietnam and Gulf War 1?

Or perhaps they have learnt from the situation in 1938 when an evil
force was allowed to expand, tens of millions died.

Paul

PB wrote:

And perhaps you are conveniently forgetting the fact that Neville
Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to occupy the 'Sudetenland' despite a
previous treaty with Czechoslovakia, foolishly declaring that he just
obtained 100 years of peace for Europe.

Take it up with your priest, PB, or at least to a group where it's not OT.

Got any opinion on sailplanes?


Jack

Jack wrote:
PB wrote:

And perhaps you are conveniently forgetting the fact that Neville
Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to occupy the 'Sudetenland' despite
a previous treaty with Czechoslovakia, foolishly declaring that he
just obtained 100 years of peace for Europe.


Take it up with your priest, PB, or at least to a group where it's not OT.

Got any opinion on sailplanes?


Jack

Well Jack, I do, however if you bothered to read his post, and the one
before, you might have realised that I was only responding to his 'OT'
post. And that iy is not the first time Derek introduced politics into
this NG.

Paul

At 14:18 13 January 2006, Pb wrote:

And perhaps you are conveniently forgetting the fact
that Neville
Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to occupy the 'Sudetenland'
despite a
previous treaty with Czechoslovakia, foolishly declaring
that he just
obtained 100 years of peace for Europe.

Actually a subtle ploy to buy more time to develop
the Spitfire and the Hurricane fighter planes and to
rearm, so that we could fight off the Germans!

Derek Copeland

Well, I am a glider pilot, rather than a professional
politician. Unfortunately, as we are finding out the
hard way in Europe as the EC 'harmonises' it's flying
regulations, politics are important to us.

Politicians and civil servants always want to play
it safe, so airspace is becoming more and more reserved
for commercial and military aviation and we are lucky
to get any remaining scraps. The idea of airmindedness
and flying for pleasure never seems to figure in politicians
minds, until there is a war and they need pilots!

Also wars require them to raise extra revenue, i.e.
taxes, so we have less disposable income to spend on
flying, assuming that we are allowed to aviate at all.
Then there is the risk that we will be send into battle
and killed, or have to kill many innocent civilians
on the other side. I would only be prepared to go along
with this if our country was actually directly under
attack, rather than some trumped up charge of WMDs
in a remote land, when the real objective was to nick
all their oil!

Oh, and by the way Paul. If Hitler's Germany was perceived
to be such a threat to the World in 1938, why didn't
the US get directly involved until 1942?

Derek Copeland


At 02:54 14 January 2006, Pb wrote:
Jack wrote:
PB wrote:

And perhaps you are conveniently forgetting the fact
that Neville
Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to occupy the 'Sudetenland'
despite
a previous treaty with Czechoslovakia, foolishly declaring
that he
just obtained 100 years of peace for Europe.


Take it up with your priest, PB, or at least to a
group where it's not OT.

Got any opinion on sailplanes?


Jack

Well Jack, I do, however if you bothered to read his
post, and the one
before, you might have realised that I was only responding
to his 'OT'
post. And that iy is not the first time Derek introduced
politics into
this NG.

Derek Copeland wrote:
Well, I am a glider pilot, rather than a professional
politician. Unfortunately, as we are finding out the
hard way in Europe as the EC 'harmonises' it's flying
regulations, politics are important to us.

Politicians and civil servants always want to play
it safe, so airspace is becoming more and more reserved
for commercial and military aviation and we are lucky
to get any remaining scraps. The idea of airmindedness
and flying for pleasure never seems to figure in politicians
minds, until there is a war and they need pilots!

Also wars require them to raise extra revenue, i.e.
taxes, so we have less disposable income to spend on
flying, assuming that we are allowed to aviate at all.
Then there is the risk that we will be send into battle
and killed, or have to kill many innocent civilians
on the other side. I would only be prepared to go along
with this if our country was actually directly under
attack, rather than some trumped up charge of WMDs
in a remote land, when the real objective was to nick
all their oil!

No, say it ain't so! ;-)

Oh, and by the way Paul. If Hitler's Germany was perceived
to be such a threat to the World in 1938, why didn't
the US get directly involved until 1942?

It's called The Atlantic. Once all those sinking ships started
poisoning our fish supplies, we got ****ed.

Shawn

At 02:48 12 January 2006, Derek Copeland wrote:
By the way us British glider pilots are not made welcome
in France, because allegedly two of our gliders were
unfortunate enough to get in the way of a free falling
parachutist and a French two-seater that spun in a
thermal respectively. Since then they will not recognise
our UK qualifications, despite this being a principle
requirement of the EU. I don't think they have ever
forgiven us and the Yanks for liberating their country
from German occupation!

There is a very simple explanation for all this, the're
French!!!