Amnesty for illegal immigrants will not happen this time.....................

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:14:00 GMT, Jose
wrote in ::

While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

It's the children's fault?

If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the parents, their
children would have been born outside the US, and been ineligible for
immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is unjust (with
the apparent exception of the Bush administration).

That is a poem on a plaque where immigrants came ashore and
were kept in isolation quarantine for weeks while their
health and skills were checked. If we had a Ellis Island
along the Mexican border, it might apply.



"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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| Give me your tired, your poor,
| Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
| The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
| Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
| I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
|
| "Larry Dighera" wrote in message
| ...
| On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:14:00 GMT, Jose

| wrote in
::
|
| While children of illegal aliens are currently
considered to be US
| citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law
(retroactively) to
| exclude the children of those who cross the US border
ILLEGALLY from
| that right.
|
| It's the children's fault?
|
| If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the
parents, their
| children would have been born outside the US, and been
ineligible for
| immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is
unjust (with
| the apparent exception of the Bush administration).
|
|
|

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:14:00 GMT, Jose
wrote in ::

While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

It's the children's fault?

If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the parents, their
children would have been born outside the US, and been ineligible for
immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is unjust (with
the apparent exception of the Bush administration).


On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:49:56 GMT, "Steve Foley"
wrote in oReXf.117$v9.69@trndny01::

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.


Who wrote that? Is the lady with the lamp who graces the entrance to
New York harbor a French-horse? :-)

I believe the US has absorbed its share of immigrants over the
centuries.

It is anachronistic, negligent, perhaps reckless, and definitely
irresponsible for the world's leading nation to fail to appreciate the
necessity of controlled and documented movement across its borders.

To be more correct, we now have 12 million mostly unarmed
Mexican INVADERS with the goal of retaking Texas, New
Mexico, Arizona and California. And they are or appear to
be succeeding.


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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| On 31 Mar 2006 04:48:52 GMT,
(Expert Humor)
| wrote in ::
|
| Our politicians lead the league in all talk, no action.
|
| I wish the politicians were talking about how many of the
12 million
| people currently in this country illegally have jobs, and
how many of
| those pay Social Security and Workers Compensation. Those
| undocumented workers who have legitimate employment with
the usual
| deductions being made from their paychecks should be fined
for illegal
| entry and made to seek and secure naturalized US
citizenship and the
| ability to speak English; those unable to prove they are
employed and
| paying into Social Security and Workers Comp. need to be
deported
| along with their offspring.
|
| While children of illegal aliens are currently considered
to be US
| citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law
(retroactively) to
| exclude the children of those who cross the US border
ILLEGALLY from
| that right.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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To be more correct, we now have 12 million mostly unarmed
Mexican INVADERS

Uh, they're here at the behest of millions of American employers
(individuals and small businesses). That makes them invitees, not invaders.

with the goal of retaking Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.
And they are or appear to be succeeding.

That's each immigrant's *goal*? As opposed to, say, wanting to provide for
their own family? Do you have evidence for this astonishing interpretation?
Or do you think evidence is unnecessary when you engage in ideological
bluster?

--Gary

The ones carry and waving Mexican flags seek political power
"as Mexicans" and the over-throw of the US Government. They
are invaders. The law that has not been enforced makes it
illegal to hire undocumented workers, put the boss in jail
too.

I am all in favor of anybody wanting to be an American (USA)
citizen, but I am very unhappy with people wanting to make
American [USA] Mexico or any other country. I don't want
bribery, graft and oligarchy which are the rule south of the
USA.


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:NTbXf.7090$t22.1437@dukeread08...
| To be more correct, we now have 12 million mostly
unarmed
| Mexican INVADERS
|
| Uh, they're here at the behest of millions of American
employers
| (individuals and small businesses). That makes them
invitees, not invaders.
|
| with the goal of retaking Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and
California.
| And they are or appear to be succeeding.
|
| That's each immigrant's *goal*? As opposed to, say,
wanting to provide for
| their own family? Do you have evidence for this
astonishing interpretation?
| Or do you think evidence is unnecessary when you engage in
ideological
| bluster?
|
| --Gary
|
|

I don't want
bribery, graft and oligarchy which are the rule south of the
USA.

That's not the rule here? Check out the DC area.

Jose
--
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for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On 31 Mar 2006 04:48:52 GMT, (Expert Humor)
wrote in ::


While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.


How far back retroactively are you proposing to go?

If some foreign guy shows up today wanting U.S. citizenship, and says
he wants to purchase slaves from Africa and murder the local natives,
you can bet that he will be shipped back immediately. What do you
proposed we do with the descendents of the people who did exactly that
a few hundred years ago?

If we could just start now, citizenship if you are conceived
and born here, of parents who are here legally with a visa
that is not a student or tourist visa, in other words,
parents who come here legally with the intention of becoming
citizens.

Also, we need to have English as the official language.



"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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| Larry Dighera wrote:
| On 31 Mar 2006 04:48:52 GMT,
(Expert Humor)
| wrote in ::
|
|
| While children of illegal aliens are currently
considered to be US
| citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law
(retroactively) to
| exclude the children of those who cross the US border
ILLEGALLY from
| that right.
|
|
| How far back retroactively are you proposing to go?
|
| If some foreign guy shows up today wanting U.S.
citizenship, and says
| he wants to purchase slaves from Africa and murder the
local natives,
| you can bet that he will be shipped back immediately. What
do you
| proposed we do with the descendents of the people who did
exactly that
| a few hundred years ago?
|

Also, we need to have English as the official language.

No, we need Americans to learn foreign languages. We need Americans to
learn math and science. We need Americans to get out of their coccoon
and realize that the world around them is different from Main Street.

Jose
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Nothing takes longer than a shortcut.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.