bought the plane today

I try and keep a 50/50 mix of av/auto gas in my Skylane. More avgas in the
winter, more autogas in the summer.


"ktbr" wrote in message
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Guy Byars wrote:
i can see that i'm going to be needing a lot of money for gas.


Congratulations. You ought to look into an Auto Gas STC for your plane.

Gauy


The thing I don't like about autogas is that it goes rancid
so easily and quickly. Unless you fly alot and often it may
not be so good to use it.

Guy Byars wrote:
I try and keep a 50/50 mix of av/auto gas in my Skylane. More avgas in the
winter, more autogas in the summer.


Shouldn't it be the other way around, if you're concerned about vapor
lock?

Autogas in winter makes starting much easier due to its higher vapor
pressure.

Autogas in winter makes starting much easier due to its higher vapor
pressure.


I have heard a lot of arguments about vapor lock, but I do not understand
how vapor lock could ever be a problem in a Cessna 182.

With the high wing configuration, the carberator will always have a positive
fuel pressure due to hydrostaic pressure. How can vapor lock *EVER* happen
in a Skylane? As an engineer, I don't see it happening.

Now, on the other hand, if you have a low wing airplane with a fuel pump,
then vapor lock is a very real problem.

But vapor lock in a high wing carberated engine.... not possible.

"houstondan" wrote:

my first airplane. cessna 172C.

Congratulations. Welcome to the club.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Congrats Dan!

There's no better feeling than to decide, "spur of the moment", that
you want to go flying and to know that your plane is exactly where you
left it last, and in the condition "YOU" left it!

Check out the thread on "do-it-yourself" things you can do, to minimize
costs on ownership incidentals.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...09ab340aa7a707

Best Regards,
Todd

houstondan wrote:
my first airplane. cessna 172C.

Congratulations, that's a great plane. Some friends of mine have one
in a two-way partnership, I tried to buy in with them but they were
happy with their partnership the way it was and didn't want to take on
a third. So I am jealous of you.

why a 172-c?? well, a couple of reasons. mechanical flaps (you pull a
rod that's laying on the floor)

Yup, that's definitely a big plus.

and the 6 cylinder engine which,
although it is 5-15 hp light of later models, is smooth music compared
to the banging of the 4s.

Yes, that engine is sweet and you won't miss the missing hp. (You
might regret the extra cylinders at OH time though). The engine may be
less powerful than a modern 172, but the plane is also lighter. I flew
a 172C loaded just about to gross on a warm day out of a 2100 foot
elevation airport and I thought the climb up to 7500 was kinda slow.
Then a couple of months later I flew out of the same airport in a 160hp
Warrior that was more lightly loaded, and its climb was nearly
identical.

I did a lot of research on this engine and one thing I learned was that
it definitely is much happier on mogas (assuming you can get good clean
mogas for it) so you should make an effort there.

it is slow by most standards but i think i see
15/mpg which ain't that bad considering the advantage you get over cars
on "direct route". i'm retired; i've got lots of time.

When it's your own plane you aren't paying an hourly rental, so an
extra 30-45 minutes on a flight doesn't bother you as much. IMO.

i can see that i'm going to be needing a lot of money for gas.

The 172C that I flew and tried to buy into had a fuel flow meter, and
we were getting about 7 gph in leaned cruise. Ok, so it's kinda slow
(I think 100kts) but like you said, reasonably efficient.

Enjoy your bird!

Originally Posted by houstondan

my first airplane. cessna 172C.


i can see that i'm going to be needing a lot of money for gas.

dan

Congrats, Dan. I bought my first power plane in January and still get a kick out of tooling around in the afternoon after work just watching the sun go down. 172s aren't the sexiest of birds, but I learned to fly in one and still think they are a great value and a very reliable choice for a purely recreational bird.

Enjoy and be sure to share some stories with us.

V7

houstondan wrote:

my first airplane. cessna 172C.
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Here's to many enjoyable and pleasantly memorable experiences in your "new"
airplane.

--
Peter

You'll find you fly your own airplane differently. Go clean & spiff it
up now (that doesn't take any gas money).

Add an EGT if it doesn't have one. Personally I also like having
manifold pressure for setting and cross checking power even if it is a
fixed pitch prop.

Congratulations!

Go clean & spiff it up now (that doesn't take any gas money).

Yeah, but it sure takes a heck of a long time! ;-)

We went up last weekend and washed the 172 and let the kids ride their
bikes around the airport. It took 4 hours just to wash it, and I was
too tired to try and wax it this time, or to do any of the finer detail
cleaning things I would have liked to have done. But... regardless of
what an @$$ kicker it can be to wash and wax a plane, it feels great
being there, cleaning your bird, and watching people flying in and out
of the airport, and watching your kids having the time of their lives
on all of that open pavement where the planes are tied down!

I think a MasterCard "priceless" commercial can easily be made out of
the adventure!

Best Regards,
Todd