Fuel Prices and their Effect on Your Flying

Montblack wrote:
("Newps" wrote)

Or just buy a more efficient plane. I sold my 182 and got a Bonanza.
I'm burning a lot less gas, approx 40%, than when I had my 182.



What are the two engines?
Your normal cruise speeds between the two?

Curious? I wouldn't have thought that the case.

Most of my flying is the local $100 hamburger run. In the 182 with the
standard O-470R I usually ran top of the green, 23"/2450. That gave me
about 135-140 mph indicated and burned about 12.5-13. In the Bo with
the standard IO-520 I run 45% in the local area at 19"/2100 at 50 lean
of peak. That will give me 150 mph indicated and burn 8 gph, so
nowadays I'm burning 4.5-5 gph less and when I need or want to I can
tear up the sky at 185-190 mph indicated at 15 gph.

On 2006-04-30, Montblack Y4-NOT wrote:
("Newps" wrote)
Or just buy a more efficient plane. I sold my 182 and got a Bonanza. I'm
burning a lot less gas, approx 40%, than when I had my 182.

What are the two engines?
Your normal cruise speeds between the two?

The Bonanza is vastly more efficient than a C182. Our club had a 1960
C182 and a mid-60s S35 Bonanza. The C182 (IIRC) had an O-470. It would
burn about 13 gph in cruise at about 135 kts (again, IIRC). The Bonanza
with an IO-520 (285hp) would do 160 knots at the same fuel flow. It
would also climb a lot faster, take off in less distance, and IMHO was a
much nicer plane to fly.

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That's one way to to do it. Bonanza are a lot more fuel efficient than
a 182.

I just had a trip last weekend in my 75 AA5. 420nm buring 27.58gal of
autogas, about 15.2 nmpg. That's very good for a production 4-seater.

"M" wrote in message
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That's one way to to do it. Bonanza are a lot more fuel efficient than
a 182.

I just had a trip last weekend in my 75 AA5. 420nm buring 27.58gal of
autogas, about 15.2 nmpg. That's very good for a production 4-seater.

TN B36 (IO-550): 418nm (Montrose-Lincoln, NE), 185kts, 19kt tailwind, 12,500
feet, 32.5 gallons 100LL, 60 LOP; TT 2hrs 19min.

"Newps" wrote
... I sold my 182 and got a Bonanza. I'm burning a lot less gas, approx
40%, than when I had my 182.

Wow! Is that at the same air speed?

Jon Woellhaf wrote:

"Newps" wrote

... I sold my 182 and got a Bonanza. I'm burning a lot less gas, approx
40%, than when I had my 182.


Wow! Is that at the same air speed?

About 10 mph faster.

Newps wrote:
Or just buy a more efficient plane. I sold my 182 and got a Bonanza.
I'm burning a lot less gas, approx 40%, than when I had my 182.

Amen.

Would you mind talking some sense into my partner? We have a perfect
opportunity to buy a F33 from a friend in the next hangar over.
Pristine aircraft, casual sale (so no tax liability here in NJ), just
needs some avionics work. It does 178KTAS on ~15GPH, while we burn
11GPH in the 172/180HP doing 115KTAS on a good day. Ugh. My kingdom
for a little common sense.

-Doug

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http://www.dvatp.com
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In article , Doug Vetter wrote:

Would you mind talking some sense into my partner? We have a perfect
opportunity to buy a F33 from a friend in the next hangar over.
Pristine aircraft, casual sale (so no tax liability here in NJ), just
needs some avionics work. It does 178KTAS on ~15GPH, while we burn
11GPH in the 172/180HP doing 115KTAS on a good day. Ugh. My kingdom
for a little common sense.

However, what would the difference in maintenance costs be between the
172 and the F33, and insurance...?

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I have a 180hp (C/S prop) C-172F with the lyc O-360 and I burn and plan
on 9 gph. Why are you at 11? I run 2300 rpm and 22". I believe that give
me 9 gph.

Ross

Doug Vetter wrote:

Newps wrote:

Or just buy a more efficient plane. I sold my 182 and got a Bonanza.
I'm burning a lot less gas, approx 40%, than when I had my 182.


Amen.

Would you mind talking some sense into my partner? We have a perfect
opportunity to buy a F33 from a friend in the next hangar over. Pristine
aircraft, casual sale (so no tax liability here in NJ), just needs some
avionics work. It does 178KTAS on ~15GPH, while we burn 11GPH in the
172/180HP doing 115KTAS on a good day. Ugh. My kingdom for a little
common sense.

-Doug

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Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI

http://www.dvatp.com
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M wrote:

The best "mod" you can get to make fuel cost more bearable is the
autogas STC, if you're lucky enough to own a model that can get the
STC, and you can get ethanol free autogas.


How great is that mod when you need to get 30-40 gallons into the plane?

Do you land at a gas station? G

Even 20 is a lot to carry around in portable containers.