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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... As many of you know, this was our 24th consecutive Airventure -- and our 8th flying in. I've seen the RIPON/FISK arrival from all angles, both from the ground and in the air, and have seen pretty much everything that could be thrown at us. Although it's always tense, due to the proximity of aircraft and the unusual arrival procedures, the OSH arrival is usually a piece of cake. This year, however, was different. snip I don't ever want to see anything like that again, so, here are my suggestions to make the EAA Arrival Procedures safer and easier next year: My rule, after experiencing a "bad" hold at SnF once upon a time is that I *don't* hold. I'll fly away and land at an outlying airport before I'll engage in a dogfight with dissimilar aircraft and pilots. 1. Add an LSA Arrival Procedure. snip We need a third speed/altitude, just for slower planes. For 2007 I suggest adding an "LSA Arrival" at 70 knots, and 1800 MSL, to keep these slow-pokes out of the bunch. This will make things MUCH safer for the majority of pilots. Keep "GA Arrivals" at 90 knots, but move 'em up to 2100 feet, and bump the 130 knot "Fast Mover" arrivals up to 2400 MSL. Lots of aircraft can use a slower arrival procedure. Any of the 2 seat Cessnas, Luscombes, Aeroncas, most of the vintage biplanes, etc. could easily fly a 75 knot arrival. That would eliminate the issue of somone in a Commanche (or whatever) getting stuck behind a slow mover. Been there, done that. 2. Stop the "Keep in Tight" Commands. Every year I've landed on Rwy 27, the controller spends most of his time admonishing arrivals to "keep it inside the blue water tower" on downwind. This always results in a "Corsair approach" to land, meaning that you're banked steeply in a constantly descending right turn all the way to touchdown. Face it, everyone is loaded at (or beyond) gross, it's hot, nerves are frazzled, and then you're forced to perform an abnormally tight pattern to land -- all (apparently) for the convenience of the controllers. I didn't see it, but the guy who stalled and spun in was performing this arrival, and it's tough. (We landed on Rwy 36 later, which is a much simpler -- and safer -- approach.) IMHO, there is no reason for this to happen. If the pattern gets a bit wider, who cares? Pilot safety should be paramount, not controller convenience. If they're worried about the pattern expanding beyond their ability to see from the tower, they're just gonna have to move their butts out onto a flat-bed, just like FISK. Keep it tight does have benefits. It helps the incoming aircraft stay in visual contact. A big pattern probably means a higher chance of mid-air collisions because "that guy" is gonna turn base early, creating problems for folks flying the bigger pattern. 3. COMMUNICATE Problems. Agreed. If there is an accident, make an announcement. That way, people can exit the hold procedure and go elsewhere to hold in the air or on the ground. My other comment is that the FAA needs to put people on the ground at Oshkosh and SnF. Not to check weight and balance or to harass people. Instead, to follow-up with pilots who make bad errors such as blowing the arrival procedure or not following tower instructions. In those situations, the first question is "Show me your copy of the NOTAM". Face it, there are a handful of idiots out there trying to kill the rest of us or at least tarnish our good name... That's it. Nothing earth-shaking, but I feel these three changes would be easy to implement, and would help make the Oshkosh approach safer and more enjoyable for everyone. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" In the past, I've sent similar comments to the EAA regarding both the SnF and Oshkosh arrival procedures. I got a response to the effect of "Thanks for your input..." KB |
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote Keep it tight does have benefits. It helps the incoming aircraft stay in visual contact. A big pattern probably means a higher chance of mid-air collisions because "that guy" is gonna turn base early, creating problems for folks flying the bigger pattern. How about putting up a few of those balloons that look like a really small blimp (like they use for new car dealerships, and grand openings) as points to turn just outside of, to control pattern size? -- Jim in NC |
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OOOOH, balloon buster targets. I get first swipe at next year's balloons.
Jim How about putting up a few of those balloons that look like a really small blimp (like they use for new car dealerships, and grand openings) as points to turn just outside of, to control pattern size? -- Jim in NC |
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2. Stop the "Keep in Tight" Commands.
Keep it tight does have benefits. It helps the incoming aircraft stay in visual contact. A big pattern probably means a higher chance of mid-air collisions because "that guy" is gonna turn base early, creating problems for folks flying the bigger pattern. I don't mean they shouldn't keep the base turn in close to the runway threshold-- there's nothing wrong with that, and the "green dot" system works great to alleviate someone who's in TOO tight. But the too-tight-to-the-runway downwind is what kills people. They can't quite get it around on base-to-final, they help it with a little rudder, they're too slow, too low, too hot, and too dead. Allow the downwind to loosen up, and you'll save some lives, methinks. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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