Jay Honeck must get an instrument rating

In article ,
Margy Natalie wrote:

Does this mean you'll get yours too Margie? :-)


I was trying to throw the attention off of me and onto Jay. It doesn't
seem to have worked.

Consider: Ron has the rating, Mary does not.

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Bob Noel
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"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
m...
The subject line says it all. I declare from this moment on all
rec.aviators should, on all possible occasions, pick on Jay Honeck for not
having an instrument rating.

Margy

An Instrument rating is only good if you keep current and proficient!!! An
IFR rating is a must if you travel beyond the U.S. borders as VFR out side
there USA can be a real pain in the ass! I file IFR just about every where I
go including with-in the U.S. I may forget how to fly VFR one day hahahahaha
once you get used to flying under IFR you notice how simple it is to get to
places and plan flights and how accurate you planning will be. You will look
at airways like hi-ways! Jay Honeck is one of the fer good guys on usenet no
need to pick on the guy for not having an IR!!!

Except, in certain parts of the country, IFR means burning 1/3 more
fuel and flying 1/3 more distance, and 20 minutes extra delay in
takeoff.

- An instrument current pilot who loves to fly VFR for its freedom.

NW_Pilot wrote:

An Instrument rating is only good if you keep current and proficient!!! An
IFR rating is a must if you travel beyond the U.S. borders as VFR out side
there USA can be a real pain in the ass! I file IFR just about every where I
go including with-in the U.S. I may forget how to fly VFR one day hahahahaha
once you get used to flying under IFR you notice how simple it is to get to
places and plan flights and how accurate you planning will be. You will look
at airways like hi-ways! Jay Honeck is one of the fer good guys on usenet no
need to pick on the guy for not having an IR!!!

In article . com,
"M" wrote:

Except, in certain parts of the country, IFR means burning 1/3 more
fuel and flying 1/3 more distance, and 20 minutes extra delay in
takeoff.

more flying time is a GOOD thing.


- An instrument current pilot who loves to fly VFR for its freedom.

understood

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"M" wrote in message
ups.com...

Except, in certain parts of the country, IFR means burning 1/3 more
fuel and flying 1/3 more distance, and 20 minutes extra delay in
takeoff.


In those parts of the country not being able to go IFR can mean cancelling
the trip.

Except, in certain parts of the country, IFR means burning 1/3 more
fuel and flying 1/3 more distance, and 20 minutes extra delay in
takeoff.

- An instrument current pilot who loves to fly VFR for its freedom.

NW_Pilot wrote:

An Instrument rating is only good if you keep current and proficient!!! An
IFR rating is a must if you travel beyond the U.S. borders as VFR out side
there USA can be a real pain in the ass! I file IFR just about every where I
go including with-in the U.S. I may forget how to fly VFR one day hahahahaha
once you get used to flying under IFR you notice how simple it is to get to
places and plan flights and how accurate you planning will be. You will look
at airways like hi-ways! Jay Honeck is one of the fer good guys on usenet no
need to pick on the guy for not having an IR!!!

In article .com,
M wrote:
Except, in certain parts of the country, IFR means burning 1/3 more
fuel and flying 1/3 more distance, and 20 minutes extra delay in
takeoff.

A few times I've been flying the pattern at Palo Alto (PAO) under
low ceilings and have had planes in the run-up area that were still
there waiting for their IFR release 45mins later. One day a King
Air was stuck waiting IFR release for ~30mins while Norcal was
flipping the patterns at SFO, OAK and SJC.

I've debated getting my instrument rating for awhile, but most of
my flying is taking friends up to see stuff, and the inside of one
cloud looks like them all. Punching through the bay stratus would
be useful, but the delays would take the fun out of it.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

On 2006-09-27, John Clear wrote:
I've debated getting my instrument rating for awhile, but most of
my flying is taking friends up to see stuff, and the inside of one
cloud looks like them all. Punching through the bay stratus would
be useful, but the delays would take the fun out of it.

Not quite. Some of those clouds like to go green, flash a lot, and try
and disassemble your aircraft.

Seriously - if you're flying IFR, generally (or at least in my
experience) you don't tend to spend all that much time inside a cloud.
Quite a lot of it between them, above them, flying in and out of them.
Some of the most beautiful flights I've had have been IFR - bursting
from a wall of cloud into majestic canyons and mountains of cloud, all
patterned dappled by the overhead altocumulus. It was almost like being
on another planet.

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Dylan Smith wrote:

Seriously - if you're flying IFR, generally (or at least in my
experience) you don't tend to spend all that much time inside a cloud.

Come to an airport in the Northeast US on the downwind side of the Great
Lakes. There are many spring and fall flights where the only visual
flying you do ends three seconds after takeoff and resumes five to eight
seconds before landing.

--
Peter
144 hours of actual and counting

I guess I'm in one of those certain parts - Southeast US. I get direct
even when I don't ask for it. The only time I have to use the airways
is around Wash DC and the eastern FL coast where it's just the best way
to do it.

I file almost every flight because it's just easier. I spend less time
managing flight around funky airspace. Seldom is there a delay and
when there is, I usually have the option of going VFR. Fact is, most of
my IFR flights are VFR.

Every aspect of it is better - just takes some effort and money like
everything else.

Ironically, I now find a VFR CC takes more preparation than an IFR CC in
good weather.

C'mon Jay!

M wrote:
Except, in certain parts of the country, IFR means burning 1/3 more
fuel and flying 1/3 more distance, and 20 minutes extra delay in
takeoff.

- An instrument current pilot who loves to fly VFR for its freedom.

NW_Pilot wrote:


An Instrument rating is only good if you keep current and proficient!!! An
IFR rating is a must if you travel beyond the U.S. borders as VFR out side
there USA can be a real pain in the ass! I file IFR just about every where I
go including with-in the U.S. I may forget how to fly VFR one day hahahahaha
once you get used to flying under IFR you notice how simple it is to get to
places and plan flights and how accurate you planning will be. You will look
at airways like hi-ways! Jay Honeck is one of the fer good guys on usenet no
need to pick on the guy for not having an IR!!!