Soreness after flights, and rudders

Robert M. Gary writes:

No, but it takes no effort to slide your feet up. Students will try to
ride the brakes otherwise. That's one of the things we CFIs are always
looking for during taxi.

They deliberately ride the brakes, or they just ride them without
realizing it?

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

You probaby don't want to have your foot on the brake on the ground
unless you actually mean to use the brake. I teach my students to taxi
with their feet flat on the floor because they would otherwise always
drag the brakes during taxi.

Is it possible to apply the brakes with your heels on the floor?

No, but it takes no effort to slide your feet up. Students will try to
ride the brakes otherwise. That's one of the things we CFIs are always
looking for during taxi.

One thing that I do is unless I need the brakes, my feet are placed such
that the balls of my feet are on the bottom part of the pedal and my heels
are on the floor, especially on final and takeoff. Reason I say especially
on final, as I noticed if I was kind of high and needed to slow down, for
some reason I would push on the brakes, like they would do something, NOT!
But, I would always release the brakes before touchdown. So, to make sure I
don't land inadvertantly with the brakes on (instant flat spot on the main
tires), and taking off with partial brakes applied is obviously something
you don't want to do... So I changed to fly with just the balls of my feet
on the bottom of the rudder pedal, and actually found this more comfortable,
and when I need the brakes I slide my feet up the pedals and push on the
brakes.

The CH pedals have lip bottom of the pedal so that you can't do this. Pedal
in airplanes don't have this lip. I found the CH pedals are not very
comfortable.

VH-UNR writes:

For a new pilot, while your on the ground yes, your claves can become
sore, because your whole foot is on the rudder peddle, thats if you
have toe brakes. once your ready to take off, as my instructor says,
part of your pre-takeoff checklist should inclue a saying, heels on
floor. The rudder becomes extremely responsive once you start you run
up and you should only be placing you balls of your feet on the pedel
to control them, still resting your heels on the floor. This is very
important during the takeoff roll as your really do not want to hit
them brakes. as the other guys said, if your ot having to balance a
turn or manouver then you can take you feet of the rudder.

Hmm ... I didn't think of that. In pictures it looks like the pedals
are raised considerably off the floor. I've had trouble visualizing
exactly how the pilot's feet fit on the pedals. Pictures of the
pedals aren't very clear, and I've never seen a photo that shows how
the pilot puts his feet on the pedals.

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BTW: After a long flight its usually your butt that hurts as well as
your head from the headset. I've done 7 hour legs in my Mooney, usually
when trying to clear Mexican customs in Southern Mexico (I don't clear
in Northern Mexico because it takes more time and you can't fly at
night in Mexico so you can get "stuck"). In Southern Mexico, you can
land right at sunset and still have time for customs.

-Robert

Why don't you go take a couple of lessons and you'll find your answers.

I used to fly 14-18hrs missions with no problems, 2-3 times a week.
But then I could get up and move around every few hours. That ejection seat
did get hard after a while.

In stable flight, rest your feet on the floor.
With proper positioning, heels on the floor for landing and flying keeps
your toes off the brakes.
BT


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Does flying leave you sore if you haven't flown in a while or if you
are new to flying? I'm thinking of muscle fatigue from being in an
unusual position for long periods, and in particular I'm wondering if
keeping one's feet on rudder pedals for hours at a time leads to any
soreness afterwards. Or do you even keep your feet on the pedals all
the time? Since apparently most autopilots don't use the rudder, even
running on autopilot might not eliminate the need to have feet on the
rudder (?). And if pushing the pedals forward applies the brakes,
does this mean that you have to hold your foot back whenever it's
resting on the pedal? Does it hurt anything to apply the brakes in
flight?

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"BT" wrote in
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Why don't you go take a couple of lessons and you'll find your
answers.

Been there done this with this question.....

I can imagine Mx using the whiniest voice possible.....

It's too dangerous.....
It's too expensive....

It's too..... (you fill in the blank).

We go in circles with this guy.......

Allen