Married Couples and CRM (followon to Courious Crash)

Margy and I pretty much adopt the John & Martha approach.
The person in the left seat is PIC and sets the rules.
The person in the right is free to make gentle suggestions.
Generally, Margy lets me play with the radios to keep out
of her hair.

In marginal VFR, whoever is left seat flies on instruments
while the right seat pilot scans for traffic. The right
seat and anybody in the back is on traffic lookout in
general. (The kids were quite bored with this job as we
usually spotted things before them until the time Margy's
son was flying with her to Oshkosh and entered the Ripon
transition).

We have the "run the tank dry drill down" Margy hits the
boost pump switch while I turn the fuel selector.

Of course there was the time I was sitting there all fat,
dumb, and happy in the right seat and we were coming in
to land and Margy who had been holding a bottle of water
up until that point decides to throw it in the back seat.
Except my seat is slightly farther back than hers and
suddenly I'm smacked in the head with a half-full water
bottle.

We won't go into the CRM required during 6 hour legs in
Australia.

On Dec 21, 7:41 am, Ron Natalie wrote:
We won't go into the CRM required during 6 hour legs in
Australia.

Was this CRM training a part of the Australia flying tour? We would
not mind taking a CRM training class at all. At one time, Rick thought
that we should have a more formal checklist procedure with the copilot
called out each step and the PIC replied 'checked'. We went through it
once. I did not like it a bit because it took too long to read every
item outloud. So we went back to our usual practice with the PIC went
through the checklist. The copilot observed silently and spoke up only
when it was absolutely necessary.

I don't recall reading a long report about your Australia trip. Did
I miss it? If I am not mistaken, all flying tours in Australia were
discontinued post 9/11 due to red tape hassles. I had checked into the
NewZealand and Africa self-flying trips and they all sounded quite
interesting. I had tried to convince Rick to take one of these trip
next year for our wedding anniversary but he was not ready for such a
big trip. We may just take few weeks off flying coast-to-coast camping
in little airports etc.. next spring. Alaska may be next on the plan
before NewZealand or Africa.

Hai Longworth

I don't think he is referring to the flying of the plane type of CRM,
Hai. :-))
Note that he mentioned six hour flights.

Longworth wrote:

On Dec 21, 7:41 am, Ron Natalie wrote:


We won't go into the CRM required during 6 hour legs in
Australia.



Was this CRM training a part of the Australia flying tour? We would
not mind taking a CRM training class at all. At one time, Rick thought
that we should have a more formal checklist procedure with the copilot
called out each step and the PIC replied 'checked'. We went through it
once. I did not like it a bit because it took too long to read every
item outloud. So we went back to our usual practice with the PIC went
through the checklist. The copilot observed silently and spoke up only
when it was absolutely necessary.

I don't recall reading a long report about your Australia trip. Did
I miss it? If I am not mistaken, all flying tours in Australia were
discontinued post 9/11 due to red tape hassles. I had checked into the
NewZealand and Africa self-flying trips and they all sounded quite
interesting. I had tried to convince Rick to take one of these trip
next year for our wedding anniversary but he was not ready for such a
big trip. We may just take few weeks off flying coast-to-coast camping
in little airports etc.. next spring. Alaska may be next on the plan
before NewZealand or Africa.

Hai Longworth

On Dec 21, 2:07 pm, john smith wrote:
I don't think he is referring to the flying of the plane type of CRM,
Hai. :-))
Note that he mentioned six hour flights.

What is 6hrs of flying together in light of years of marriage ? ;-)

Hai Longworth

john smith wrote:
I don't think he is referring to the flying of the plane type of CRM,
Hai. :-))
Note that he mentioned six hour flights.

Precisely...it went something like this. Margy who was in the
right seat said something like:

M: You're airplane, you're going to laugh at me, but I have to
use one of those zip-loc bags.
R: Nope, cause after you're done you're going to empty this
water bottle out the window so I can use it.

The company that I was flying with decided after the last round of
regulation changes to get out of the business. However, there was
a new company at Oshkosh selling these tours. They state you do
have to plan farther in advance as it takes longer to push your
paperwork through than it used to.