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Old April 14th 07, 01:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tony Cox
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Wait 'til Scary Mary gets on TV with this:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N10403256.htm


What's with it with medical journals these days? First, it
was "The Lancet" with the (now discredited) claim of a
supposed 600,000 deaths in Iraq. Now it's the JAMA
publishing what appears to be something better suited to
the Scandinavian Journal of Statistics on a dull Sunday. Is
the medical research field so sparse these days that they
have to muscle in on other scientists' territory?

And what's with physicians who think that their medical
qualifications make them experts in Aviation Safety, anyway?


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Old April 14th 07, 02:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
J. Severyn
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This is just a couple of folks at Johns Hopkins that need a publication or
two in a "professional" journal to put on their annual job appraisal.
Without it they have no chance of getting a pay raise. With it, they might
make the cut, at the expense of GA. Neither author has especially
impressive credentials in medicine and no credibility or credentials in
aviation safety. It just looks very unprofessional. JH and JAMA editors
are not doing their jobs. I've emailed the JAMA editors and the authors and
stated their paper belongs next to the checkout stand in the supermarket.

John Severyn

"Tony Cox" wrote in message
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And what's with physicians who think that their medical
qualifications make them experts in Aviation Safety, anyway?




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Old April 14th 07, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:02:38 -0700, "J. Severyn"
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This is just a couple of folks at Johns Hopkins that need a publication or
two in a "professional" journal to put on their annual job appraisal.


That was my thought too.

Without it they have no chance of getting a pay raise.


Perhaps the people JH people responsible for job appraisals should get
a copy of our critique too.

With it, they might make the cut, at the expense of GA.


Apparently at the expense of taxpayers too:

This work was funded in part by grants R01AA09963
and R01AG13642 from the National Institutes of Health and grant
CCR302486 from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Role of the Sponsor: The funding agencies had no role in the
preparation, review, or approval of the manuscript.

I wonder who would appropriate to contact at the above institutions?

Neither author has especially
impressive credentials in medicine and no credibility or credentials in
aviation safety.


You will find references to several previously published reports
authored by Mr. Li in the article's bibliography! Given the quality
of this one, I can imagine the quality of all his other aviation
related reports.

It just looks very unprofessional. JH and JAMA editors
are not doing their jobs. I've emailed the JAMA editors and the authors and
stated their paper belongs next to the checkout stand in the supermarket.

John Severyn


Good. Give me the e-mail addresses of the JH and JAMA editors, and
I'll do the same.

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Old April 14th 07, 06:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
J. Severyn
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:02:38 -0700, "J. Severyn"
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This work was funded in part by grants R01AA09963
and R01AG13642 from the National Institutes of Health and grant
CCR302486 from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Role of the Sponsor: The funding agencies had no role in the
preparation, review, or approval of the manuscript.

I wonder who would appropriate to contact at the above institutions?


I do not know. But I believe NIH is in WashDC and CDC is in Atlanta.


Good. Give me the e-mail addresses of the JH and JAMA editors, and
I'll do the same.


Well here is where I gave feedback to JAMA:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/feedback
using the cite info:
COMMENTS:
Crash Risk in General Aviation
Guohua Li, MD, DrPH; Susan P. Baker, MPH
JAMA. 2007;297:1596-1598.

I just clicked the "General Editorial Question" as I figured that had the
best chance of getting to one of the JAMA editors. A recognition email was
returned immediately (I asked for a copy to be returned). I was amused that
the return email included my IP address.

I do not know the JH editors, but I sent the same note directly to the
authors at:
Guohua Li, MD, DrPH:
Susan P. Baker, MPH:

which you found earlier too.

John Severyn



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Old April 14th 07, 11:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:06:01 -0700, "J. Severyn"
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Well here is where I gave feedback to JAMA:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/feedback
using the cite info:
COMMENTS:
Crash Risk in General Aviation
Guohua Li, MD, DrPH; Susan P. Baker, MPH
JAMA. 2007;297:1596-1598.

I just clicked the "General Editorial Question" as I figured that had the
best chance of getting to one of the JAMA editors. A recognition email was
returned immediately (I asked for a copy to be returned). I was amused that
the return email included my IP address.


Thanks, John, for your support and the JAMA e-mail address.
 




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