Foreign Pilot Getting US Glider Rating

The FAR's just seems to require that he has the hours logged and
training on the subjects for part 61.whatever, they don't say anything
about requiring the training to be in the US. I guess the fundamental
question is if the foreign training counts. Only the FSDO will know
that one.

My club has a member with the Dutch equivalent of a recreational pilot
rating. Since, unlike a private or commercial rating, that is not
internationally recognized, he got nowhere with the FAA. Since he will
be here for a few years, he took (wrote, to you Brits :-) ) the US
knowledge test, got the required instructional flights required to
prepare for the test (FAR 61.39), and passed his US private pilot
practical test with flying colors. Prior to that, he'd been flying (in
the US) on a student pilot license.

US pilots should understand that if they have a sport/recreational
rating, that it may not be recognized abroad either.

Tony V. CFI-G
P.S. I signed his license application (form 8710-1)

On Apr 15, 10:17�am, Tony Verhulst wrote:
The FAR's just seems to require that he has the hours logged and
training on the subjects for part 61.whatever, they don't say anything
about requiring the training to be in the US. *I guess the fundamental
question is if the foreign training counts. *

Yes, the foreign training hours count but the recommending CFI that
signs at the top of the back of the FAA Form 8710-1 Airman Certificate
Application needs to be a US / Current Certificated Flight Instructor,
who has "personally instructed" the applicant. It says that on the
Form 8710-1. That would mean to me the "at least 3 training flights
within the past 60 days" (not 90 days as someone else posted!) The
foreign hours logged certainly count but the formal ground & flight
training to US FAR's, procedures, chart reading, etc. are essential.
It's the quality of the hours / what was studied. They likely do it
different "over there".

There are other endorsements required in the applicant's logbook
including the launch endorsement. Your Examiner will be looking for
these - found in the FAR's (including the one in 61.39 - the "hidden
endorsement". ) The new SSA / SSF Glider Pilot Logbook has these
endorsements pre-printed in the back.

Getting this critical information from rec.aviation.soaring is a bit
risky. Read the FAR's and the Instructions for the FAA Form 8710-1
Application.

Burt
Marfa

On Apr 15, 3:30 pm, "Burt Compton - Marfa" wrote:
On Apr 15, 10:17?am, Tony Verhulst wrote:

The FAR's just seems to require that he has the hours logged and
training on the subjects for part 61.whatever, they don't say anything
about requiring the training to be in the US. ?I guess the fundamental
question is if the foreign training counts. ?

Yes, the foreign training hours count but the recommending CFI that
signs at the top of the back of the FAA Form 8710-1 Airman Certificate
Application needs to be a US / Current Certificated Flight Instructor,
who has "personally instructed" the applicant. It says that on the
Form 8710-1. That would mean to me the "at least 3 training flights
within the past 60 days" (not 90 days as someone else posted!) The
foreign hours logged certainly count but the formal ground & flight
training to US FAR's, procedures, chart reading, etc. are essential.
It's the quality of the hours / what was studied. They likely do it
different "over there".

There are other endorsements required in the applicant's logbook
including the launch endorsement. Your Examiner will be looking for
these - found in the FAR's (including the one in 61.39 - the "hidden
endorsement". ) The new SSA / SSF Glider Pilot Logbook has these
endorsements pre-printed in the back.

Getting this critical information from rec.aviation.soaring is a bit
risky. Read the FAR's and the Instructions for the FAA Form 8710-1
Application.

Burt
Marfa

I understood about the instructor that endorses the pilot for the
practical test has to do the "preparation" flights. What I had looked
for in the FAR/AIM is the wording that allows foreign flight
instruction to count in the US. But a closer reading shows that the 3
flights in preparation are the ONLY flight instruction required for a
private glider ! The rest of the time just has to be logged flight
time, solo is fine.

Todd Smith
3S