OLC posting of EW Model D files

Hi,
The Upload program for transferring files from the EW model 'B' and 'D',
is available under software on www.ewavionics.com.
Graham



der Pilot Network wrote:

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Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring
Subject: OLC posting of EW Model D files
Author: Wayne Paul
Date/Time: 16:40 23 April 2007
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"5Z" wrote in message
roups.com...


On Apr 23, 9:04 am, "Wayne Paul" wrote:


In addition to the OLC-2007 failures I have been experience with files
transferred to my laptop using SeeYou, I am having the same problem


using


the IGC approved EW Windows Uploader.


Wayne, after downloading your flight, does it pass the VALI-xxx.exe
check? If so, then the error is being introduced during the upload to
OLC. If not, then there is a problem with downloading from the FR to
your computer.

The impression I have based on the above comment is that the problem
is during transfer from the FR to your computer. If that is indeed
the case, then you must fix that problem before submitting to the OLC
unless you just want to set a placeholder for the flight prior to the
Tuesday deadline. Then the transfer issue must be resolved and
finally you can upload the valid file.



Tom,

Thank you for your suggestion; however, to the best of my knowledge a
separate VALI-xxx.exe program no longer exists for the EW Model D. My
last
attempt was using the EW Windows Uploader found on the FAI site.
(http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp) This program produces an
IGC
file which requires the download and conversion of the EW data file. It

would be a shame if this manufacture's product skips the validation process.

The process runs smoothly without any indication of a problem.

Again, thank you for taking the time to assist me.

Wayne



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Graham,

The software on the FAI site is the EW provided EW Windows Uploader. I
uninstalled it and installed the version on the EW site that is optimized
for use with an USB to serial converter. My 20 April flight file was
transferred from my EW to my laptop and a OLC claim was completed using the
"Direct Claim (IGC - file)" process. The IGC security record still doesn't
match the OLC computed value. So the mystery continues.

Thank you for your assistance.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/


"Graham Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi,
The Upload program for transferring files from the EW model 'B' and 'D',
is available under software on www.ewavionics.com.
Graham



der Pilot Network wrote:

----------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring
Subject: OLC posting of EW Model D files
Author: Wayne Paul
Date/Time: 16:40 23 April 2007
------------------------------------------------------------

"5Z" wrote in message
groups.com...


On Apr 23, 9:04 am, "Wayne Paul" wrote:


In addition to the OLC-2007 failures I have been experience with files
transferred to my laptop using SeeYou, I am having the same problem


using


the IGC approved EW Windows Uploader.


Wayne, after downloading your flight, does it pass the VALI-xxx.exe
check? If so, then the error is being introduced during the upload to
OLC. If not, then there is a problem with downloading from the FR to
your computer.

The impression I have based on the above comment is that the problem
is during transfer from the FR to your computer. If that is indeed
the case, then you must fix that problem before submitting to the OLC
unless you just want to set a placeholder for the flight prior to the
Tuesday deadline. Then the transfer issue must be resolved and
finally you can upload the valid file.



Tom,

Thank you for your suggestion; however, to the best of my knowledge a
separate VALI-xxx.exe program no longer exists for the EW Model D. My
last
attempt was using the EW Windows Uploader found on the FAI site.
(http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp) This program produces an
IGC
file which requires the download and conversion of the EW data file. It

would be a shame if this manufacture's product skips the validation
process.

The process runs smoothly without any indication of a problem.

Again, thank you for taking the time to assist me.

Wayne



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Wayne Paul wrote:
The IGC security record still doesn't
match the OLC computed value. So the mystery continues.

OLC does not "compute" anything. It just confirms the G record is
correct by using whatever VALI-xxxx program is appropriate for the
file uploaded.

If, as you say, there is no VALI-xxxx program available for *you* to
run against the downloaded file, then OLC does not have one either.

The basic process is as follows:

1. IGC file is downloaded from the FR to your computer.
2. You should ensure it is valid and secure (VALI-xxxx)
3. The file is uploaded to OLC
4. OLC uses a VALI-xxxx program to validate the uploaded file

If you were to download the IGC file from OLC, it should be
*identical* to the one you uploaded. If even one byte is different,
then there is a problem with file upload to OLC.

So there is no "direct from FR to OLC" method of submission and
validation. Even if some software is hiding the process, at least
steps 1, 3, and 4 take place.

I hope this helps clarify the process so you can better analyze what
is happening.

-Tom

Our club has an EW Model D. This weekend I downloaded 2 flights from it
using SeeYou v3.65. The first flight was submitted to the OLC and
validated.
The second flight did not validate due to an "L" record inserted by SeeYou
being longer than 76 characters.

Today I installed SeeYou v3.71 on the same computer and re-downloaded the
2nd flight. This time the log appears to be fine and without the unusual
"L" record.

John Scott