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Old April 26th 07, 01:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Operations over water

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509


Thanks. The liferaft must add a lot of weight.

I read a story about a French pilot who flew across the Channel with
he and his passengers actually wearing their lifejackets, but I don't
know if this was a specific requirement for France, or just an extra
precaution that he preferred, or what. It's only 20 miles across the
channel so apparently it wouldn't even be covered by 91.509.


You're an idiot.


Bertie
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Old April 26th 07, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary[_2_]
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On Apr 25, 6:28 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
I read a story about a French pilot who flew across the Channel with he and
his passengers actually wearing their lifejackets, but I don't know if this
was a specific requirement for France, or just an extra precaution that he
preferred, or what. It's only 20 miles across the channel so apparently it
wouldn't even be covered by 91.509.


I can think of other reasons why a flight by a French pilot across the
English channel wouldn't be covered by FAR 91.509.

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Old April 26th 07, 06:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Erik
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Default Operations over water

Gary wrote:
On Apr 25, 6:28 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

I read a story about a French pilot who flew across the Channel with he and
his passengers actually wearing their lifejackets, but I don't know if this
was a specific requirement for France, or just an extra precaution that he
preferred, or what. It's only 20 miles across the channel so apparently it
wouldn't even be covered by 91.509.



I can think of other reasons why a flight by a French pilot across the
English channel wouldn't be covered by FAR 91.509.


I hope that you're not suggesting that the FAA does not have
jurisdiction over French pilots! I thought we had all-
encompassing police power in every country.

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Old April 26th 07, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Operations over water

On Apr 25, 3:28 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509


Thanks. The liferaft must add a lot of weight.


Since you'd have to be flying a Citation for this rule to apply you
probably are not concerned with the weight of the life raft.

-Robert

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Old April 26th 07, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Godwin
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509


Careful, you've wandered into Subpart F "Large and Turbine-Powered
Multiengine Airplanes and Fractional Ownership Program Aircraft"

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Old April 26th 07, 04:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ZikZak
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Default Operations over water

On Apr 25, 3:04 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509


91.509 applies only to large aircraft.

For small aircraft, only 91.205(b)(12) applies.

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Old April 26th 07, 08:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Godwin
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ZikZak wrote in
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For small aircraft, only 91.205(b)(12) applies.


.... if being operated for hire.

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Old April 27th 07, 12:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ZikZak
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On Apr 26, 12:02 pm, John Godwin wrote:
ZikZak wrote groups.com:

For small aircraft, only 91.205(b)(12) applies.


... if being operated for hire.

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91.205 applies to all aircraft and should be checked before every
flight. Yes, 91.205(b)(12) does say that a liferaft is only required
if the aircraft is operated for hire.

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Old April 27th 07, 01:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Godwin
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Default Operations over water

ZikZak wrote in
oups.com:

91.205 applies to all aircraft and should be checked before every
flight. Yes, 91.205(b)(12) does say that a liferaft is only
required if the aircraft is operated for hire.


91.205(b)(12) is the only paragraph in that part that relates to
Operations over water and only covers operations if the aircraft is
operated for hire.


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Old April 26th 07, 01:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Operations over water

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


I have extensive experience operating over water, as it happens, Send me
$500 and i'll tell you all about it. I accept paypal.


That's cheap, BTW.



Bertie
 




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