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A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"



 
 
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Old May 29th 07, 10:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

NW_Pilot wrote:
"Erik" wrote in message
...
NW_Pilot wrote:

Flight was not worth $2,000 to me I guess to some one it was!!! I
wanted $3,500 Labor Single Engine over the big Pond Ummmm I guess
he is tanked with 200 gallons total onboard.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N9484B

Lets wish this pilot some good luck on this trip whoever it may be.


Well, that link has a route to Hawaii from Hayward. It does say that
a 172 is going 2300+ miles.

I wonder where the fuel stops are going to be. Is it even possible
for a 172 to carry that much fuel?


He is tanked with 200 gallons of fuel onboard!!! He has more than
enough range to make it direct. I am just not sitting my rear in a
Ratty OLD 172RG for 18 hours.... Then have to do it Again the Next
Day and the Next!!!! Not for $2,000 No way!!! Now if it was a New 182
or 206 Yea, But I Still would charge more than $2,000 ($2,000 labor
is what the job was offering for 4 days worth of risk)


50+ hours of retract time for the log book. That's worth $7560 to some young
buck. Plus he gets to hang out in Fiji and chill for a few days.

I wouldn't do it for 5 times that much today but 20 years ago. Probably.


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Old May 30th 07, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"


"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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NW_Pilot wrote:
"Erik" wrote in message
...
NW_Pilot wrote:

Flight was not worth $2,000 to me I guess to some one it was!!! I
wanted $3,500 Labor Single Engine over the big Pond Ummmm I guess
he is tanked with 200 gallons total onboard.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N9484B

Lets wish this pilot some good luck on this trip whoever it may be.

Well, that link has a route to Hawaii from Hayward. It does say that
a 172 is going 2300+ miles.

I wonder where the fuel stops are going to be. Is it even possible
for a 172 to carry that much fuel?


He is tanked with 200 gallons of fuel onboard!!! He has more than
enough range to make it direct. I am just not sitting my rear in a
Ratty OLD 172RG for 18 hours.... Then have to do it Again the Next
Day and the Next!!!! Not for $2,000 No way!!! Now if it was a New 182
or 206 Yea, But I Still would charge more than $2,000 ($2,000 labor
is what the job was offering for 4 days worth of risk)


50+ hours of retract time for the log book. That's worth $7560 to some
young buck. Plus he gets to hang out in Fiji and chill for a few days.

I wouldn't do it for 5 times that much today but 20 years ago. Probably.


The broker handling this flight will not pay for him to hang for a few day's
maybe one day if lucky depending on airline availability and his arrival in
Fiji then he is huffing it to the airport on the next flight out to the next
ferry flight or back home.


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Old May 30th 07, 12:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
ferry flight or back home.


I think that's happening now. Hope it wasn't anything life threatening.

Jim





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Old May 30th 07, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"


"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
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50+ hours of retract time for the log book. That's worth $7560 to some
young buck. Plus he gets to hang out in Fiji and chill for a few days.

I wouldn't do it for 5 times that much today but 20 years ago. Probably.


The broker handling this flight will not pay for him to hang for a few
day's maybe one day if lucky depending on airline availability and his
arrival in Fiji then he is huffing it to the airport on the next flight
out to the next ferry flight or back home.


Looks like he either forgot the columbia coffee, or picked up a heck of head
wind!!!



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Old May 30th 07, 12:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

What has always been the problem for commercial pilots since the
Wright Brothers is that some new guy will always do the flight for
less, or even free, just to get the log time...
That is why, other than the unionized majors, guys are flying freight
dogs at night for $7 an hour...
denny

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Old May 29th 07, 10:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

("NW_Pilot" wrote)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N9484B

Lets wish this pilot some good luck on this trip whoever it may be.



I check him out:
Estimated Time Enroute vs. other 172's:

2:50
2:40
1:35

17:00 -------- Him (books on tape? g)

1:20
2:21
3:39
1:15


Montblack
My sister and her hubby spent over a month in Fiji, last August (pre-coup).
They loved it!


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Old May 30th 07, 01:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("NW_Pilot" wrote)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N9484B

Lets wish this pilot some good luck on this trip whoever it may be.



I check him out:
Estimated Time Enroute vs. other 172's:

2:50
2:40
1:35

17:00 -------- Him (books on tape? g)

1:20
2:21
3:39
1:15


Montblack
My sister and her hubby spent over a month in Fiji, last August
(pre-coup). They loved it!



George Carlin Audio Books are Great. George Carlin actually reads them to
you! With the HF (ham radio) there is always things to do on that little
radio talk to the Oceanliners etc. they all think we are crazy hahaha.


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Old May 30th 07, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

He left an hour late, and is now 2 hours behind schedule, if I read that
right.
Never seen that site before. I don't know of anything like it for Australian
flights.
Is his flight path, in a big 'Z' line normal? Or could he have been lost?
Crash Lander
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But I'm never wrong!
"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
. ..
Flight was not worth $2,000 to me I guess to some one it was!!! I wanted
$3,500 Labor Single Engine over the big Pond Ummmm I guess he is tanked
with 200 gallons total onboard.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N9484B

Lets wish this pilot some good luck on this trip whoever it may be.



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Old May 30th 07, 04:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

"Crash Lander" wrote:
Is his flight path, in a big 'Z' line normal?


It appears to due to a data entry glitch. If you click on the
"Status En Route (No recent position)" link you will see the position
log:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N.../PHNL/tracklog

It would appear that the longitude entry for 7:28PM has a type: it says
-137.50 but clearly should have been -127.50.

A careful examination of the flight log shows minute-by-minute updates
up to 6:34PM and then roughly hourly after that. According to Google
Earth, the position at 6:34PM was a distance of about 200 miles from the
California coast. Which is consistent with what I understand is typical
ATC radar coverage range - perhaps someone who has more knowledge of the
subject can confirm or correct that.
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Old May 30th 07, 05:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default A Flight I Denied (172RG To Fiji) Lets Wish Him Luck he is "Enroute"

On May 29, 8:39 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
"Crash Lander" wrote:
Is his flight path, in a big 'Z' line normal?


It appears to due to a data entry glitch. If you click on the
"Status En Route (No recent position)" link you will see the position
log:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...529/2042Z/KHWD...

It would appear that the longitude entry for 7:28PM has a type: it says
-137.50 but clearly should have been -127.50.

A careful examination of the flight log shows minute-by-minute updates
up to 6:34PM and then roughly hourly after that. According to Google
Earth, the position at 6:34PM was a distance of about 200 miles from the
California coast. Which is consistent with what I understand is typical
ATC radar coverage range - perhaps someone who has more knowledge of the
subject can confirm or correct that.


Seems funny to me that he planned the flight to arrive in the dark....
On a flight like this, wouldn't you prefer to arrive in daylight?

--Dan

 




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