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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:11:27 GMT, tony roberts
wrote:


Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label
gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold
must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
Here in Ontario I was told not all gasoline must have 5% alky, but
5%
of all fuel sold must be alky - so 50% of all fuel sold being E10
satisfies the requirement. In practice, virtually all 87 octane
will
be e10. Premium 91 will (from some companies, at least) be E0,
making
the blended 89 E5. Since significantly over half the gasoline sold
in
Ontario is 87 octane, this would excede the requirements. - Just
from
what I've been told, but you can never trust the elected idiots, or
worse yet the beurocrats


IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real
irritant. I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel
aircraft engines becoming available. Since I should be making my
own
biodiesel by the end of this Summer (for something less than 45
cents
a
gallon), are any of the new diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912 class?




What do you grow to make biodiesel?


Relatives that own restuarants and have to pay to dispose of waste
fryer
oil!



You grow relatives?


Well, somebody planted the seed and they tend to grow on their own. I
just
fertilize them now and then!



What do you actually do to the waste fryer oil to make it useful as
biodiesel?


A common misconception is that biodiesel is just filtered vegetable oil;
this is not the case. Straight Vegetable Oil (SVO) (and Waste Vegetable Oil
(WVO), for that matter) don't have the proper viscosity to run in a diesel
engine unless they are heated to the 140 F to 170 F range. More
importantly, they solidify at too high a temperature and will clog the
injector pump and injectors. Biodiesel is vegetable oil that has gone
through the transesterification process. Simplified, you mix many parts
vegetable oil with one part methanol and a little bit of lye, then heat and
stir the mixture. After a while, you have a tank of cloudy oil with
glycerine on the bottom. You then bubble air through the oil until it is
no longer cloudy, and the clear oil is biodiesel.

"Ken Finney" wrote in message
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What do you grow to make biodiesel?


Relatives that own restuarants and have to pay to dispose of waste fryer
oil!



You grow relatives?


Well, somebody planted the seed and they tend to grow on their own. I
just fertilize them now and then!


I planted some birdseed. A bird came up; now I don't know what to feed it.

"Al G" wrote in message
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"Ken Finney" wrote in message
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IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real
irritant. I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel
aircraft engines becoming available. Since I should be making my own
biodiesel by the end of this Summer (for something less than 45 cents a
gallon), are any of the new diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912 class?




What do you grow to make biodiesel?


Relatives that own restuarants and have to pay to dispose of waste fryer
oil!



You grow relatives?


That's like deliberately breeding flies or mosquitoes.

"Al G" wrote in message
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What do you grow to make biodiesel?

Al G


Wild wood flower grew down on the farm, but we never knew what it was
called......

Steve Foley wrote:
"Al G" wrote in message
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What do you grow to make biodiesel?

Al G


Wild wood flower grew down on the farm, but we never knew what it was
called......

.....Some called it was a flower and some called it a weed...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Steve Foley wrote:
"Al G" wrote in message
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What do you grow to make biodiesel?

Al G


Wild wood flower grew down on the farm, but we never knew what it was
called......

....Some called it was a flower and some called it a weed...
Loco weed. That must be what congress 'been smokin'!

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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"Al G" wrote in message
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What do you grow to make biodiesel?

Al G


Wild wood flower grew down on the farm, but we never knew what it was
called......
We all waved good-bye...sittin' on that there sack of seeds.

Ken Finney wrote:


IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real
irritant. I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel
aircraft engines becoming available. Since I should be making my own
biodiesel by the end of this Summer (for something less than 45 cents
a gallon), are any of the new diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912 class?

You'll never get an STC to put it in a certified aircraft. Better start
thinking experimental.

On May 31, 11:22 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
Ken Finney wrote:

IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real
irritant. I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel
aircraft engines becoming available. Since I should be making my own
biodiesel by the end of this Summer (for something less than 45 cents
a gallon), are any of the new diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912 class?

You'll never get an STC to put it in a certified aircraft. Better start
thinking experimental.

Actually there is a company with an STC for biodiesel. They have a
C-172 at Sacramento City College that if fully STC'd on biodiesel
rigtht now. If you really want give these guys a call
http://www.do.losrios.cc.ca.us/scc/spring/aviation.htm

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On May 31, 11:22 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
Ken Finney wrote:

IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real
irritant. I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel
aircraft engines becoming available. Since I should be making my
own biodiesel by the end of this Summer (for something less than 45
cents a gallon), are any of the new diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912
class?

You'll never get an STC to put it in a certified aircraft. Better
start thinking experimental.

Actually there is a company with an STC for biodiesel. They have a
C-172 at Sacramento City College that if fully STC'd on biodiesel
rigtht now. If you really want give these guys a call
http://www.do.losrios.cc.ca.us/scc/spring/aviation.htm

-Robert

Link is broken. I'm sure it is from the 10s of 1000s of folks wanting to buy
that STC.