One, big sh*t-eating grin...!

I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.

You didn't use rudder for your turns in a 172? I learned in a 172, and
IIRC a turn without rudder was uncoordinated.

Joe's instructor flies primarily tail-wheel aircraft. His main ride
is a 1929 Travel Air -- so you KNOW he knows what a rudder is for.

He thinks tricycle gear aircraft aren't the best to train in -- but
the only tail-dragger available for rent on the field is a Citabria,
and it's not available for primary flight instruction.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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RomeoMike wrote:

I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.

You didn't use rudder for your turns in a 172?

Yes, I do use rudder. Perhaps I don't understand exactly
what is meant by leading a turn. I assumed it was using
rudder first instead of simultaneous use of aileron and rudder.
Is that incorrect?

I learned in a 172, and
IIRC a turn without rudder was uncoordinated.

I agree.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Jay Honeck wrote:
Just a few hours after his lesson he was lambasting me for not
teaching him to "lead his turns with the rudder".

Bob Noel wrote:
eh?
You need to use rudder to lead turns in a Cherokee?
I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.

That's because neither you nor your instructor were/are taildragger pilots.

Come again? I've got about 2300 hours in taildraggers and once they are a
sheet of paper off the runway, they fly just like a nosewheel airplane.

Enlighten me. My first fifteen years of flying must have been all wrong.

Jim

--
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, with chocolate in one hand and wine in
the other, loudly proclaiming 'WOO HOO What a Ride!'"
--Unknown


"john smith" wrote in message
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That's because neither you nor your instructor were/are taildragger
pilots.

In article ,
john smith wrote:

eh?
You need to use rudder to lead turns in a Cherokee?
I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.

That's because neither you nor your instructor were/are taildragger pilots.

Is leading the turn something a taildragger has to do on the ground?

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Five inches of rain here overnight, with more to come. I'll be amazed
if he gets a lesson in today.

Yowch. I don't think we've had 5" this year.

Yeah, it's impressive. US Hwy 6, east of Iowa City, was closed
yesterday, under water.

We've got a couple from Cambria, California with us at the inn this
weekend, and all they can do is walk around with their eyes wide open,
marveling at how GREEN everything is! They say that their area, not
far from Hearst Castle, is just golden brown dead, from a drought.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

We've got a couple from Cambria, California with us at the inn this
weekend, and all they can do is walk around with their eyes wide open,
marveling at how GREEN everything is! They say that their area, not
far from Hearst Castle, is just golden brown dead, from a drought.

There is a drought, but it is also the dry season. I'm about 150
miles north of there, and in this part of California, we usually
don't get ANY rain between June and October. Having lived back
east, the seasons here take some getting used to. Everything is
green during the winter, and dead in the summer. Average yearly
rainfall is in the 15-20 inch range.

I have some friends that moved here from Canada during the summer.
They bought a house with an established garden, and were watering
the plants regularly. They couldn't understand why the plants were
all dying. They took some cuttings to the local nursery, and were
told 'those are drought hardy plants'. My friend's comment was "It
doesn't rain for six months, and if you water the plants, they
die!"

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

"It
doesn't rain for six months, and if you water the plants, they
die!"

Now *that* is funny!

Just got back from an after dinner walk. Everything is green, green,
GREEN, with weeds growing out of literally any nook or cranny that had
a few specks of sand in them.

It's not raining anymore, but the humidity is about 99.9999%. Add
that .00001 and we'd have another torrential downpour...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
My son's first flight lesson came off as planned today, despite nasty
weather all around. Amazingly, as if by magic, the skies cleared and
the winds calmed, right at the appointed time.

Joe walked over to the airport from the hotel, after working several
hours on the pool and in our future "Flying Tigers Suite". It's
certainly handy, working just 400 yards from the airport...

Almost three hours later, his flight instructor dropped him off in the
lobby, and there was my 16-year-old son, logbook tucked under his arm,
walking through the door as if his feet were still not touching the
ground.

What a grin! You could see that his face was starting to hurt, from
stretching so far and for so long, but still that gigantic, self-
satisfied grin remained firmly in place. His hands moved like moths
flitting around a flame, and he simply could not sit down, as he
excitedly told us that "Gary let me land the plane!" -- and he had
"greased it on"!

He went on and on, while Mary and I just laughed and laughed,
remembering that giddy, wonderful, almost-scared-but-way-excited
feeling when we first took those initial steps into the sky.

Tomorrow he starts ground-reference maneuvers. What fun!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I remember that feeling well. It's great!

Peter :-)

Gosh, your story brings back memories. I soloed on my 15th birthday and got
my certificate on my 16th. I think I probably had the same "category" of
grin on both occasions.

Congratualtions. You and your wife have obviously done a good job of stying
close to your son within a terrific family.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
My son's first flight lesson came off as planned today, despite nasty
weather all around. Amazingly, as if by magic, the skies cleared and
the winds calmed, right at the appointed time.

Joe walked over to the airport from the hotel, after working several
hours on the pool and in our future "Flying Tigers Suite". It's
certainly handy, working just 400 yards from the airport...

Almost three hours later, his flight instructor dropped him off in the
lobby, and there was my 16-year-old son, logbook tucked under his arm,
walking through the door as if his feet were still not touching the
ground.

What a grin! You could see that his face was starting to hurt, from
stretching so far and for so long, but still that gigantic, self-
satisfied grin remained firmly in place. His hands moved like moths
flitting around a flame, and he simply could not sit down, as he
excitedly told us that "Gary let me land the plane!" -- and he had
"greased it on"!

He went on and on, while Mary and I just laughed and laughed,
remembering that giddy, wonderful, almost-scared-but-way-excited
feeling when we first took those initial steps into the sky.

Tomorrow he starts ground-reference maneuvers. What fun!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"