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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)



 
 
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Old July 5th 07, 11:10 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

JohnT writes:

How many German people do you know?


A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages, so I meet German
people all the time and have a good idea of their English competence. Perfect
English is extraordinarily rare among Germans, just as it is among other
non-English-speaking groups.
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Old July 5th 07, 12:22 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages


Languages, plural? Somehow I thing you're lying again.



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Old July 5th 07, 10:13 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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JohnT writes:

How many German people do you know?


A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages, so I meet
German
people all the time and have a good idea of their English competence.
Perfect
English is extraordinarily rare among Germans, just as it is among other
non-English-speaking groups.



Perfect English is extraordinarily rare among people whose native language
it is. I haven't fully mastered my own language and, certainly, you haven't
either. So it is difficult to ascertain wht point you are attempting to
make. BTW, what are your qualifications for teaching languages?
--

JohnT

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Old July 4th 07, 10:17 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english


Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.


Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


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Old July 5th 07, 04:47 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Snowbird" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english


Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.


Not in WWII movies. Many Tsherman aviators speak it very well, some with
chummy British public school accents.


Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


Depends on what you mean by perfect German. I was in Schulenburg the other
day eating barbecue, and the two old guys I was dining with, local farmers,
was a'sprachen it right smart. Up in West Station, at Pareya's pool hall
and domino parlor, I've relatives who speak Czech and English in the same
sentence, quicker and better after 6 or 7 pivos. Out at SPJST Cottonwood,
why they even sing in Czech.

As an old Carrier Air Intercept Controller, on NATO exercises, I had to be
prepared to control any Western language or fragments thereof and possess
enough Russian obscenities to shout at snoopers.

TMO



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Old July 5th 07, 06:41 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Snowbird wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english


Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.



Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


Perhaps if Germany had won the war, it would be more important to them.
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Old July 6th 07, 12:08 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:41:56 -0700, NotABushSupporter wrote:

Snowbird wrote:


Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


Perhaps if Germany had won the war, it would be more important to them.


Of course it would. After all, it would be needed to conduct business in the
USA.

DaveM
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Old July 5th 07, 11:11 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

Snowbird writes:

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.


There's no such thing as "aviation language."

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


German isn't the international language of air traffic control.
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Old July 5th 07, 12:23 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Snowbird writes:

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.


There's no such thing as "aviation language."


You don't fly, so you wouldn't know.


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Old July 5th 07, 07:43 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:17:36 +0300, "Snowbird"
mangled uncounted electrons thus:


"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english


Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.


Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


grin You all overlook the fact that English speaking perfect
English are also extremely rare...

Martin D. Pay
Yes, I'm English - and I frequently wonder at the atrocities
perpetrated on our mother-tongue by my fellow citizens...
 




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