Cessna's new LSA: "Skycatcher"

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Matt Whiting" wrote

Makes a lot of sense to me. You need two bottles for the input fluids
and two more for the output fluids. 2 + 2 = 4 so I'd say Cessna was just
planning ahead! :-)

Is anyone else having a problem of posts repeating themselves a few days
after the original post?

I suspect that it is on my end, but I don't even know where to start
looking.

This post came on the 22nd, and it reappeared again today. I am getting
this type of thing 20 or 30 times per day.

I just switched computers, while mine is on loan.

Anyone have any ideas? Using OE on a XP machine. Charter Cable is my
service provider.
--
Jim in NC
I'm getting it too. nntp.charter.net

Al G

In rec.aviation.piloting Al G wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in message

Is anyone else having a problem of posts repeating themselves a few
days after the original post?

I'm getting it too. nntp.charter.net

Charter appears to have outsourced its news service to Highwinds Media.
Cox (another cable TV company and my ISP) used to run its own news
servers, but also outsourced to Highwinds a while back. You could tell
when that happened because the news service started to suck. I (and
other Cox customers) have been seeing the same thing over the past few
days: missing posts, and old posts showing up again.

Highwinds appears to optimize for the porn and warez downloaders at
the expense of making text groups work correctly. You can complain to
Charter, but if they're anything like Cox, nobody on the first-level
support desk has even heard of Usenet.

The solution is probably a third-party news service that isn't a
tentacle of or reseller of Highwinds. I haven't (yet) been annoyed
enough to make the switch.

Matt Roberds

"C J Campbell" wrote

Everybody made fun of the cupholders, though. FOUR cupholders in a two
place plane. Count 'em.

That must be for a tobacco spit bottle and a drink. g

For me, that would be for a Coke and a water.
--
Jim in NC

On Jul 22, 4:42 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
For those who haven't seen this, Cessna has provided lots more detail on
its LSA entry:

http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/

Fancy brochu

http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...ni_bro_web.pdf

Order form with pricing (for first 1000):

http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...final_0721.pdf

Thanks for posting this...just in general however (to you and anyone
else)...

I guess I dont understand the LSA market all that well. 109K...

I guess that they and other "new" LSA people have done the marketing
study...but somewhere I do not see how the economics of the entire LSA
near/over 100K thing work.

60K on the open market will buy one a very very good four place with
lots of money (40K) left over to 1) work it up to your hearts content,
2) fix any squeaks and 3) fly the thing.

I cant see how the insurance is going to be all that much cheaper for
a Skycatcher then a Skyhawk even for a very low time pilot...the EFIS
screens are great and probably in the long run have a better MTBF
but......anyone who thinks that they are going to do serious IFR
instruction in this plane with the "size" of most of today's pilots is
kind of kidding themselves...and then why the LSA for that?

If one is really looking for a real LSA and moves into something like
an Ercoupe or a well classic LSA...yeah one is buying "old" but thats
about 20-30K and then there is 70K or so to fix it up and you are at
the functional equivelent to the Skycatcher.

I see the very light jet market, it replaces King Airs even high end
piston twins...I dont see the LSA NEW Market.

Have I missed something here?

Robert

I see the very light jet market, it replaces King Airs even high end
piston twins...I dont see the LSA NEW Market.

Have I missed something here?

Robert


The VLJ competes with a King Air but can never replace it. Even the oldest
KA 90 from 1965 will carry 9 passengers and all their bags.

karl

"karl gruber" wrote in message
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I see the very light jet market, it replaces King Airs even high end
piston twins...I dont see the LSA NEW Market.

Have I missed something here?

Robert


The VLJ competes with a King Air but can never replace it. Even the oldest
KA 90 from 1965 will carry 9 passengers and all their bags.

karl

And be able to stop and taxi on an icy runway/taxiway. I could land
and taxi into
places where I couldn't walk away from the airplane.

Al G

I saw the plane today and sat in it. Looks good so far, but the
"plane" on display was missing a few things (like an engine). Also,
the glass panel displays were mockups. As for first impressions, it is
roomy and wide. I like the strut-aided swing-up doors, although I
found getting in and out rather difficult (had to duck my head down
and manually pull each leg back to clear the door frame. It appears
that the seats are fixed (fore/aft) and the pedal position is
adjustable. There is a cam arrangement underneath the seats that
allows raising or lowering them somewhat. The rudder pedals are on a
"platform" a few inches above the level of the footwells - which seems
a bit unnatural. The "yoke" is something between a control wheel and
joystick - emanates from the panel, but can be either rotated on the
shaft or moved left/right (as well as moved in or out). Didn't get a
chance to question Cessna's sales staff about how it works.

Cessna's electronic tally board showed some 170 orders at about 10:00
AM and 367 when I looked in again about 5:00 PM. Looks as though it is
going to be popular.


David Johnson

Update: 416 orders as of the end of the day on Tuesday the 24th.

I talked to the sales folks today, and learned that the yoke is in
fact a Stick, and works as one would expect - it just happens to be
mounted under the panel instead of on the floor. The twist movement
evident in the demonstrator will probably be gone in the real thing.
BTW the flight controls are not connected in the demonstrator and are
fixed in position (the stick moves but does nothing).

I tried it on for size again and found it comfortable (plenty of
headroom and elbow room), but no easier to get into or out of.

According to the salesman, if I ordered one today I would probably
take delivery in 2010. That's a long wait.

David Johnson

Dave,

Update: 416 orders as of the end of the day on Tuesday the 24th.


Millions of flies...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Is the New SkyCatcher engine set up for 100LL only or will buyers
have the option of an auto gas version???

Have a good day and stay out of the trees!
See ya on Sport Aircraft group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/







Jim Logajan wrote:
For those who haven't seen this, Cessna has provided lots more detail on
its LSA entry:

http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/

Fancy brochu

http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...ni_bro_web.pdf

Order form with pricing (for first 1000):

http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/imag...final_0721.pdf