A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

installing mylar



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old July 31st 07, 04:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
ContestID67
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 232
Default installing mylar

I did it myself and it was quite easy. I assume that these are
external seal tape, not internal seals.

The previous post mentioned sanding with 220. I didn't and wouldn't.
In my book
gelcoat and sandpaper should stay far, far, apart. The seals have
stuck for
3 years now with zero problems.

Having a friend help get things on straight is useful.

- John


  #2  
Old July 31st 07, 08:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
bumper
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 322
Default installing mylar


"ContestID67" wrote in message
oups.com...
I did it myself and it was quite easy. I assume that these are
external seal tape, not internal seals.

The previous post mentioned sanding with 220. I didn't and wouldn't.
In my book
gelcoat and sandpaper should stay far, far, apart. The seals have
stuck for
3 years now with zero problems.

Having a friend help get things on straight is useful.

- John



John,

Your choice not to sand. However, if you check with some of the adhesive
mfgs(3M has good info on their site), you'll find that sanding is
recommended for optimal results with acrylic adhesive as are used to stick
down Mylar. Light sanding of the surfaces to be bonded is the way to go as
it provides the adhesive with more bonding surface and mechanical "bite".

As JJ noted, it's also important to have the surfaces squeaky clean, use
pressure (roller), and only apply tape to warm surfaces for best results.
Also position controls to keep pressure off the Mylars for a few hours as
acrylic gains strength over the first 24 or so.

bumper


  #3  
Old July 31st 07, 12:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ray Lovinggood
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 137
Default installing mylar

I'm following this thread with interest. I've had
problems with mylar not sticking to the double sided
tape. The tape sticks quite well to the gel coat,
but the mylar doesn't want to stay stuck to the double
sided tape.

I've been accused of having an engine on my glider
as I pass over the airfield. But it's just that damned
loose mylar buzzing.

Of course, the hardest part of dealing with mylar is
getting the old stuff completely removed. The next
hardest is figuring out how to insure the mylar stays
stuck to the double sided tape.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina
LS1-d(t) :-)

At 06:12 31 July 2007, Bumper wrote:

'ContestID67' wrote in message
roups.com...
I did it myself and it was quite easy. I assume that
these are
external seal tape, not internal seals.

The previous post mentioned sanding with 220. I didn't
and wouldn't.
In my book
gelcoat and sandpaper should stay far, far, apart.
The seals have
stuck for
3 years now with zero problems.

Having a friend help get things on straight is useful.

- John





  #4  
Old August 12th 07, 07:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,096
Default installing mylar

Ray Lovinggood wrote:
I'm following this thread with interest. I've had
problems with mylar not sticking to the double sided
tape. The tape sticks quite well to the gel coat,
but the mylar doesn't want to stay stuck to the double
sided tape.

I've been accused of having an engine on my glider
as I pass over the airfield. But it's just that damned
loose mylar buzzing.

Of course, the hardest part of dealing with mylar is
getting the old stuff completely removed. The next
hardest is figuring out how to insure the mylar stays
stuck to the double sided tape.


I bought mylar from the sailplane dealer with the adhesive already on
the mylar, hoping the people supplying the product knew what they were
doing. So far, so good, after 6 months and 30 or so flights in a variety
of conditions - dry, humid, cold, hot.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
* Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
* "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
  #5  
Old July 31st 07, 02:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Sinclair
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 49
Default installing mylar

Ya got to sand it Ray, believe me that shiny surface
won't hold the bond. I have seen a whole lot of mylar
that didn't stick over the years, but to my knowledge,
none has come off that I installed using light sanding
with 220 dry. I'm only talking about the 10mm strip
under the mylar. There's nothing new here, we must
sand before painting, we must sand before applying
resin. it gives the surface a 'tooth'. Every now and
then I see a fiberglass patch that someone has scabbed
on without sanding the surface, I just get a fingernail
under one side and off it comes easier than removing
wing tape.
JJ

Of course, the hardest part of dealing with mylar is
getting the old stuff completely removed. The next
hardest is figuring out how to insure the mylar stays
stuck to the double sided tape.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina
LS1-d(t) :-)

At 06:12 31 July 2007, Bumper wrote:

'ContestID67' wrote in message
groups.com...
I did it myself and it was quite easy. I assume that
these are
external seal tape, not internal seals.

The previous post mentioned sanding with 220. I didn't
and wouldn't.
In my book
gelcoat and sandpaper should stay far, far, apart.
The seals have
stuck for
3 years now with zero problems.

Having a friend help get things on straight is useful.

- John









  #6  
Old August 2nd 07, 03:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ray Lovinggood
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 137
Default installing mylar

Thank You, JJ. I'll make this the next project to
tackle. Hopefully, this coming weekend.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
LS1-d(t) (when the mylar is loose and buzzing in the
breeze!)

At 12:54 31 July 2007, John Sinclair wrote:
Ya got to sand it Ray, believe me that shiny surface
won't hold the bond. I have seen a whole lot of mylar
that didn't stick over the years, but to my knowledge,
none has come off that I installed using light sanding
with 220 dry. I'm only talking about the 10mm strip
under the mylar. There's nothing new here, we must
sand before painting, we must sand before applying
resin. it gives the surface a 'tooth'. Every now and
then I see a fiberglass patch that someone has scabbed
on without sanding the surface, I just get a fingernail
under one side and off it comes easier than removing
wing tape.
JJ

Of course, the hardest part of dealing with mylar is
getting the old stuff completely removed. The next
hardest is figuring out how to insure the mylar stays
stuck to the double sided tape.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina
LS1-d(t) :-)

At 06:12 31 July 2007, Bumper wrote:

'ContestID67' wrote in message
egroups.com...
I did it myself and it was quite easy. I assume that
these are
external seal tape, not internal seals.

The previous post mentioned sanding with 220. I didn't
and wouldn't.
In my book
gelcoat and sandpaper should stay far, far, apart.
The seals have
stuck for
3 years now with zero problems.

Having a friend help get things on straight is useful.

- John













 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mylar tape [email protected] Soaring 1 October 31st 06 11:37 AM
Mylar seals for PIK20D culverflyer Soaring 5 May 19th 04 07:25 PM
ZZ Mylar seals Mike Soaring 3 March 29th 04 04:45 PM
mylar seals D.A.L Soaring 1 February 23rd 04 08:15 PM
Mylar (again) JJ Sinclair Soaring 0 December 11th 03 11:40 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.